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    hey there.. iv been thinking lately.. and i wanted to show my girlfriend some basic martial arts this weekend while im visiting her, with a kenpo persepctive ofcourse.. something a little more advanced than some of the anti sexual assault stuff that shes been shown..

    i was thinking some things might be useful for her, heres some things i wrote down. please feel free to add some suggestions



    -knee checks
    -a few grab and lock escapes, and what they leave the attacker open for
    -2-3 joint locks, and perhaps a guard submission or two.
    -how to hit with penetration (talk about suffering for the ones you love!)
    -basic body alignment and bracing angles.
    -some basic concepts and principles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madeku View Post
    hey there.. iv been thinking lately.. and i wanted to show my girlfriend some basic martial arts this weekend while im visiting her, with a kenpo persepctive ofcourse.. something a little more advanced than some of the anti sexual assault stuff that shes been shown..

    i was thinking some things might be useful for her, heres some things i wrote down. please feel free to add some suggestions



    -knee checks
    -a few grab and lock escapes, and what they leave the attacker open for
    -2-3 joint locks, and perhaps a guard submission or two.
    -how to hit with penetration (talk about suffering for the ones you love!)
    -basic body alignment and bracing angles.
    -some basic concepts and principles.
    Brian if you know lock flow teach it to her.
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    Palmheels, elbows, and how to pull towards the attacker's thumbs to break a wrist grab. Oh, and the eyes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MARSHALLS KENPO View Post
    Brian if you know lock flow teach it to her.
    unfortunatly i dont.. i know maybe half dozen individual locks, but no flow drills. i could probably string them together, but i dont know if id be doing it "right" ya know?
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    what is the purpose of teacher her? Are you hoping to give her some skills that she can actually use, or is it just to show her what it is like out of a sense of personal interest?
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    I have always felt that self-defense should be taught with an emphasis on avoidence. Things like...
    • Situational awareness
    • verbal defense tactics
    • the "buddy system"
    • trusting her instincts
    • positive self-image projection (not looking like an ideal victim)
    • active area survey techniques
    ...you know, all the stuff that can help prevent the need for physical self-defense in the first place. Also play scenarios incessently. As you're driving into a parking lot, ask her where she thinks the safest spot is when parking at night/in the daytime. What if she saw people loitering around her car as she came out of the store? How does she carry her bags as she leaves the store? Does she have her keys ready before she walks out?....lots 'n lots of stuff to drive her insane with....good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flying crane View Post
    what is the purpose of teacher her? Are you hoping to give her some skills that she can actually use, or is it just to show her what it is like out of a sense of personal interest?
    mostly the former, a little of the later.


    toejoe2k: im pretty sure thats the bulk of what she knows, common sense type stuff. but still good to go over, and know.
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    I would keep it simple, if she is not a martial artist then she it not likely to practice any thing you show her. I think we all know what happens when you donít practice.

    Just stick to basics and as said by others go with common sense situation awareness and avoidance.
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    As others have said, keep it simple. If she decides to train on a regular basis, that obviously allows for more stuff.

    I would stick to some basic "high probability" strikes like palm-heels, knees, elbows, eye-gouges, stomps, etc.

    Grab/lock escapes? Sure, as long as you don't get too fancy with what you do after you escape the grab or lock.

    Joint-locks/submissions? NO. Why? I personally feel that manipulation techniques are not only much harder to use against a resisting oponent than striking techniques (especially for someone who may not train them consistently) but also that submission and control techniques don't have much relevance in self-defense for most people. LEO's and people in similar jobs often have a requirement to restrain someone in the course of their duties. However, for most of us, stopping the attack in such a way as to create an opportunity to safely escape should be the primary goal. This is especially true of a female with little to no training.

    The primary focus (as with any of us) should be on the proper mindset. Emphasize awareness and avoidance. Make her read "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin DeBecker for the intuition and pre-assault stuff. Then make her read "Principles of Personal Defense" by Col. Jeff Cooper for the proper "fighting mindset."
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    I wouldn't teach her guard submissions. Teach how to get out of there and back on her feet!

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    maybe teach her about her body's natural weapons, and maybe some improvised weapons, high heel on shoe, point comb, car keys etc.

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    Palm heel to face
    Car Keys
    Yell Fire not rape

    Guard submissions? Seriously....
    The above is just my opinion.

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    I'd look in the phone book and find out where some schools are close to her and go visit them to see if she'd like them and then get here started there...

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    unfortunatly we didnt have any time to do this. next time we will make time. but yes..

    Kempojujutsu: i should have said lock, instead of submission.. id think breaking someone's arm, or cranking their neck is a fairly good way of making someone realize you mean no, especially if they're TRYING to get between your legs.

    stone_dragone: that would be the ideal path of action.. unfortunatly for her, no car, not much money, not much time with classes.. the only thing she knows of on campus was a fencing club she was going to try and join, mainly for fun but all the lunges were bothering her knee.

    kenpotex: oh yeah i wasnt planning on getting to in depth concerning locks or grabs. just an escape and ideas of a follow up strike or two to open targets, mainly knees... and by locks or grappling i was in no way implying manipulating and controling. im talking about breaking and dislocating. eg a crossing talon type grab with a forearm strike instead of that whole roll control thing, or something like in snapping limb, but after the first strike, insert a knee kick or check and run.

    i will deff take a look at those books and suggest them to her. they sound like a big help.

    Kenpo Gary: yeah that was one thing i wanted to go over, natural weapons, how to hit with an elbow, basic things like that
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    How but just teaching her to go against the joints when someone grabs her. You know like roll towards the thumb etc? Just my half a cent but I make my wife work these and she has gotten pretty good at them.

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