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    Forgive the gratuitous Talking Heads reference

    Now that summer is here...ever have trouble sparring when its ninety-eleven degrees outside and you and your sparring parter are soaked in sweat?

    How do you adapt to the conditions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carol Kaur View Post
    Forgive the gratuitous Talking Heads reference

    Now that summer is here...ever have trouble sparring when its ninety-eleven degrees outside and you and your sparring parter are soaked in sweat?

    How do you adapt to the conditions?
    More consistent in staying hydrated.
    Less moving with FULL Gi on!! (tank top time, back hair and all baby)
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    and don't forget the oscilating fans.

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    Hydrate and go for it!
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    When its sweaty, PLEASE keep the gi on. If you are favouring street clothes, try to not wear a tank top...more skin and less shirt gets grabbed - EWW LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carol Kaur View Post
    Forgive the gratuitous Talking Heads reference

    Now that summer is here...ever have trouble sparring when its ninety-eleven degrees outside and you and your sparring parter are soaked in sweat?

    How do you adapt to the conditions?
    Don't grapple, hit them! Plum clinch and knee strikes still work just fine despite the sweat though.

    Electrolyte replacement between partners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miyu View Post
    When its sweaty, PLEASE keep the gi on. If you are favouring street clothes, try to not wear a tank top...more skin and less shirt gets grabbed - EWW LOL
    I used to train at a school that encouraged men to train w/NO shirt on in the summer...
    but we had NO air conditioner at all and a fan that moved at three speeds:
    slow, slower and stop.

    Pretty much the same thing now, but the fan is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carol Kaur View Post
    Now that summer is here...ever have trouble sparring when its ninety-eleven degrees outside and you and your sparring parter are soaked in sweat?

    How do you adapt to the conditions?
    We are smart.

    We spar inside where we have air conditioning.

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    We spar inside where we have air conditioning.
    Werd!! But sometimes the AC will go out like it did at our school awhile back. I think we had jugs and jugs of water to keep us hydrated and the fans helped.
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    Better to hydrate then rehydrate.

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    Well, now that its summer, what is the likely condition of someone who you may have to defend against going to be? Sweaty, slippery, etc...?

    I say train against them in that state. Gross? Yeah, but if you think about it, you're training for a 'live fire scenario'. It shows you how hard it is to grab and keep ahold of someone in that condition...so you need to modify your grips or techniques slightly to allow you to counter that real life condition.

    Gi's should be on AND off for the same reason...how many people you see on the street in long sleeves today?

    And I agree with everyone else on the rest...hydrate very well before, during, and after your workout. Make sure you eat well during that time frame too, so that your body chemistry (electrolytes, etc...) stays balanced. A lot of people lose appetite in the heat, but that sets the stage for heat injuries as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindside View Post
    Don't grapple, hit them!
    Bingo! 'Rasslin a greased pig comes to mind. (Don't ask!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenpo-Owl View Post
    ...how many people you see on the street in long sleeves today?
    Depends. Where are we? What are the conditions?

    On a side note--How many thugs and gangsta wannabes do you see wearing large, baggy clothing regardless of weather conditions? Do you see this as an advantage or disadvantage in a possible confrontation?

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    Depends. Where are we? What are the conditions?

    On a side note--How many thugs and gangsta wannabes do you see wearing large, baggy clothing regardless of weather conditions? Do you see this as an advantage or disadvantage in a possible confrontation?
    Good points!!

    Where I'm at, its HOT right now. Not much in the long sleeves/baggy clothes at the moment...with the possible exception of the gangsta wannabes you mention.

    They DO seem to often wear several layers of loose, baggy clothing a lot of the time. Even during the summer a lot of times.

    As far as advantage/disadvantage, its like most things...it has aspects of both.

    Advantages (for me)? It provides something to grab on for grapple/control/chokes. You can even do things with it that aren't ordinarily available...like choking them with the collar of their own shirt for example (lapel choke).

    Disadvantages (for me)? It's MUCH easier to conceal a weapon in than a pair of shirts and a tank top. And if you rely too heavily on using it as a control method, a SMART person will shuck out of loose clothing and leave you holding it while they're beating the snot out of you.

    What are your thoughts on this?

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    Oh...wanted to add as an advantage...ever see someone try to run or fight in those baggy pants pulled down over their thighs, and draping down underneath their feet?

    It's HILARIOUS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdparsons View Post
    Depends. Where are we? What are the conditions?

    On a side note--How many thugs and gangsta wannabes do you see wearing large, baggy clothing regardless of weather conditions? Do you see this as an advantage or disadvantage in a possible confrontation?

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    That big jewlery is just like a handle, talk about something to grab onto!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenpo-Owl View Post
    Well, now that its summer, what is the likely condition of someone who you may have to defend against going to be? Sweaty, slippery, etc...?

    I say train against them in that state. Gross? Yeah, but if you think about it, you're training for a 'live fire scenario'. It shows you how hard it is to grab and keep ahold of someone in that condition...so you need to modify your grips or techniques slightly to allow you to counter that real life condition.

    Gi's should be on AND off for the same reason...how many people you see on the street in long sleeves today?

    And I agree with everyone else on the rest...hydrate very well before, during, and after your workout. Make sure you eat well during that time frame too, so that your body chemistry (electrolytes, etc...) stays balanced. A lot of people lose appetite in the heat, but that sets the stage for heat injuries as well.
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    Drunk!

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    AM NOT!!!

    Actually, I won't likely face a drunk myself. I avoid situations and locations that lead to that possibility for the most part. Now, I might get assualted by a drunk while I'm standing in line at the ice cream counter, true...but the odds are lower at least!

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    1.Trade in the heavyweight gi for a lightweight.

    2. You should wear a white gi since black and gray attract heat.

    3. Always have a bottle of water on hand.

    4. Take frequent breaks. Machoism never pays off in the long run

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenpo-Owl View Post
    AM NOT!!!

    Actually, I won't likely face a drunk myself. I avoid situations and locations that lead to that possibility for the most part. Now, I might get assualted by a drunk while I'm standing in line at the ice cream counter, true...but the odds are lower at least!
    Drunks are fun.

    No need to hurt them.

    Plenty of other stuff you can do with them that is also fun.

    Balance stuff, especially the MENTAL balance stuff.

    And they learn something.

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