Groin Strikes

[Celtic_Crippler]

Do you believe that a groin strike will immediately incapcitate an attacker?

[SPK,Grasshopper]

no man can withstand a strike from me there..LOL

[hemi]

Well first define incapacitate for a spit second or well maybe even a few seconds immediately after a strike to that area. Could I still pull the trigger of a weapon; can I still make a thrusting attack with a knife? Even if it was just one motion to stab.

So going by what I think you mean by incapacitate then I would have to say no. That strike alone would not completely stop any male attacker dead in his tracks. But yes it would definitely help my odds of winning a fight with that person if I got a good strike to that region.

Just my .2

[SPK,Grasshopper]

Hemi... Do you like the UFC if so did you see the Hughes St. Pierre fight? St. Pierre kicked Hughes in the leg and his toe hit he's groin and Hughes stopped and hit the mat. And if a man can brake rock with his hand Why can you stop me if you hit me in the groin?

[John Brewer]

Just like Hemi said it depends on what you mean by incapacitate. Also some guys can take a shot there.

[Celtic_Crippler]

incapacitate: -verb- to deprive of ability, qualification, or strength; make incapable or unfit; disable.

Believe it or not, and many police reports will back this up (any LE folks feel free to chime in) many rapist are often found AFTER the rape occurs suffering the affects of a groin strike.

In the "heat of battle" adrenaline and endorphines often delay the reaction of the shock of taking a blow to the groin giving the attacker time to get in another shot, pull the trigger of the gun, stab with the knife....whatever. That's not saying that a good shot to the groin couldn't immediately incapacitate an attacker, it's just not 100%.

A more viable target that will render the desired result more often is.......anyone?

[John Brewer]

Throat or Eyes?

[hemi]

incapacitate: -verb- to deprive of ability, qualification, or strength; make incapable or unfit; disable.

Believe it or not, and many police reports will back this up (any LE folks feel free to chime in) many rapist are often found AFTER the rape occurs suffering the affects of a groin strike.

In the "heat of battle" adrenaline and endorphines often delay the reaction of the shock of taking a blow to the groin giving the attacker time to get in another shot, pull the trigger of the gun, stab with the knife....whatever. That's not saying that a good shot to the groin couldn't immediately incapacitate an attacker, it's just not 100%.

A more viable target that will render the desired result more often is.......anyone?

I would have to say nose. Pretty much takes the fight out of the dog instantly.

[John Brewer]

I would have to say nose. Pretty much takes the fight out of the dog instantly.

I thought of the nose too but recalled a situation where it didn't help me.

[hemi]

I thought of the nose too but recalled a situation where it didn't help me.

Yeah like the groin some people seem to be able to brush off a shot taken. Me I am going to be vulnerable for a short time after taking a hard blow to either. I bent the steering wheel over almost to the dashboard of my car once with my face. (I hit a tree) I was in no shape to fight after that LOL.

[Celtic_Crippler]

Throat! ding-ding-ding! Give that man a kupie doll!

But why?

[NickName99]

I would mostly agree that groins stikes could stop or at least slow down an average assault.

But , however you have to filter in pain tolerances and some guys could be into the Iron egg MA.

A trained martial artist should be well aware on how to protect their groins, so that a factor also. Some people could have had surgery and had the boys removed. could be a factor

so general speaking I dont think its a bad idea for an ideal target, just dont stop there... escape, follow up or defend.

I know groin stikes puts me down. even with a cup!!!
Like Mr Broad said in a post a while ago about the purple triangle club.
I'm a member, wish I wasnt..lol I did however learn some important lessons that night

[amylong]

Throat! ding-ding-ding! Give that man a kupie doll!

But why?

A shot to the throat, depending on what part you hit, will cause the throat to close, depriving its owner of air. No air = no fight.

A knee shot will stop someone too because if you can't stand, it's hard to fight.

As for the groin shot, it depends on how it's given. Toes up, directly behind the family jewels, with a slight pull back will cause all sorts of pain. But a more blunt shot might not. And if the person is on drugs or serious adreneline, then it might not either.

--Amy

[parkerkarate]

No guy can withstand that kind of strike unless they have taken drugs. Than "you are up ships creek without a paddle."

[Arizona Angel]

If he knows it's coming...certain things are missing in action so to speak, and it doesn't hurt enough to quit the fight. It's the little brush strokes or slow tiny kicks to the groin that double them up. (All that coming from a girl, I know) But, my instructor wanted to me to be aware that it's not going to stop an attacker sometimes. He stood there and had me kick him and it never had affect on him. Then he taught another male classmate to do the same, and got the same result. May not always be true, just my experiance as limited as it may be.

[Zarnyk]

No guy can withstand that kind of strike unless they have taken drugs. Than "you are up ships creek without a paddle."

Block
Chop
Poke
Groin
Chop
Chop
Claw
E l b o w S a n d w i c h
Take down
Stomp
Stomp
Cross Out

hmmm, guess that's why we win by attrition.

[SPK,Grasshopper]

we win by attrition Ok how is this and where is my Chris? Know that sounds like Kenpo to me . But read the question what do you think?

[thesensei]

Well, had to say no. On many people it would (like me ), but on a real bad guy with a big adrenaline/meth rush, you might have problems depending on it. The best target for a quick drop is, as has been mentioned, the throat. That's just a vital point, and it's fairly open on anybody. That's not to say the groin's not a great target...just don't depend absolutely on that one strike -- always follow up!

[Seabrook]

There should be an option for "it depends on the situation" since that is the correct answer. I'll give a few examples of what I mean by "situation":

(a) was the groin kicked straight on or did you catch the opponent up underneath?

(b) how hard was the kick?

(c) what type of kick was used?

(d) was the opponent moving when he was kicked? If yes, did he move directly into the kick or was he moving away or off angle?

(e) how much travel was there before the foot made contact with the groin?

[Celtic_Crippler]

There are many great targets including the groin, but you can always count on the throat. Even if they don't immediately feel any pain, trauma to the throat will cause swelling at the very least. When the throat swells it inhibits their ability to breathe and no matter how "cracked up" the attacker may be, if they can't breathe they aren't going to be able to continue an attack.

Pain is a great control method, but if you want to be as efficient as possible you should consider the anatomical and/or physiological effects of your maneuvers on an attacker as well. For instance, a sure fire way to make sure an attacker doesn't use an arm to attack you with again is by breaking the collar bone. It really doesn't take a whole lot of strength to break one. Pain is irrelevent; it's basic A&P. If the collar bone is broken they simply can not use that arm.