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    So I was talking to a friend who lives in another country to me who also does kenpo. He told me he just got his second brown belt over an online grading.

    now personally I think that's not good. i mean I guess you can do your forms and sets that way but I'm guessing they didn't have great room and the grading panel can't see a form properly over a computer screen and the techniques would all have to be done in the air which really defeats the object of them especially for a second brown as yes of course you can train your techniques in the air for practice (I always do) but for a grading you should need to show you can actually apply it on a body.

    personally I wouldn't grade online like that and I really would not be proud to recieve a belt like that.

    opinions?

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    While I would certainly agree with you on all fronts in a typical or more normal circumstance. I would ask what the timeline was and if he had been ready or close prior to the one nine (Covid) coming to town and had gotten the majority of the training hands on? Ultimately while it certainly is not a race but a journey, there must be exceptions during exceptional times in all things. And let me just add I don't believe all the hype about the one nine after the initial glut didn't happen and over run the hospitals, and that we are somewhat stuck with the fall out and life/business must go on! And NO I would not take a promotion or rank increase like that, but at least he tested...
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    I would have to see what he did.

    I do believe kenpo requires putting hands on bodies, but, there are many schools that have had to keep hands away from people for the past two months. That they are unwilling to surrender to the current medical realities does not need to be scoffed at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sumdumguy View Post
    While I would certainly agree with you on all fronts in a typical or more normal circumstance. I would ask what the timeline was and if he had been ready or close prior to the one nine (Covid) coming to town and had gotten the majority of the training hands on? Ultimately while it certainly is not a race but a journey, there must be exceptions during exceptional times in all things. And let me just add I don't believe all the hype about the one nine after the initial glut didn't happen and over run the hospitals, and that we are somewhat stuck with the fall out and life/business must go on! And NO I would not take a promotion or rank increase like that, but at least he tested...
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    Yeah, I'm not "scoffing" at anyone, this is an opinion board and I gave mine. pretty simple. And thanks Captain Obvious! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by sumdumguy View Post
    Yeah, I'm not "scoffing" at anyone, this is an opinion board and I gave mine. pretty simple. And thanks Captain Obvious! LOL
    I’m really not sure what the point of your post is.
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    As Doc would say, "it depends".

    Many schools don't actually have "testing" because they test their students every week and know where they are at and only have a "belt ceremony" for promotions. Other schools have a more stringent test to have their students rise to the occasion under pressure.

    If the person has been in close contact with the instructor and the instructor knows where the student is at, then from a retention stand point, this is a good idea. It is very easy to loose students during layoffs, so the promotions help keep them practicing and motivated to return. BUT, we also all know that it shouldn't be about the belt, but the journey which begs the question, why not just wait?

    In the final say, it is up to the instructor and how he wants to run his school and how to make it survive in these times to pay the bills and keep the doors open once this is over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flying crane View Post
    I’m really not sure what the point of your post is.
    Back at ya!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sumdumguy View Post
    Back at ya!
    Ah. I see.
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    I trained at a brick and mortar school several years ago, yes they told you when to belt test, it was required.... along with the $50 fee.... Never saw anyone fail.... I suspected it was a McDojo after seeing this. I have since changed over to online training, I do a weekly private lesson with the instructor and me personally I feel I get better instruction online than in any Dojo I attended.

    Once I started the online, my suspicions were confirmed, I was at a McDojo. Yes they taught Kenpo, but it was WAY watered down (10 techniques per belt with almost no variations). Online you get out of it what you put into it. I also do have my teens to help me practice when I’m just not getting something and a body works wonders for those times.

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    Why does it matter how many techniques there is per belt?? What does that have to do with anything. I've seen numerous variations on numbers and it doesn't matter. Some systems use 24 techniques per belt. Some use 16 some use 10 it doesn't matter at the end of the day as long as they all get taught.

    yeah a lot of people who do online classes think it's better than actual training. But it's not. You doing techniques on teenagers isn't teaching you anything. You need different sized partners to work on so you're used to working with different sizes because doing a technique on a 5 foot 130 pound female will be different to doing one on a 6 foot 200 pound male. Also each attacker reacts different and creates different openings and makes you have to adjust. You can do them in the air sure you can but you won't be able to do it on a resistant body without actually practicing that.

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    i have stickers that have diffrent skills printed on them. sparring, basics, self defense, and forms. when the student has all 4 the do a pre test for the red stripe that displays test. once is schedule the date i know that the student has the material and i know they will be prepared for the test. the " test " is more of a chance for the students to display their skills and recieve the belt in front of family and friends.

    it has worked out quite well.
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