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    Default Snaking Talon Extension

    This is sort of related to the favorite technique thread.

    My friend and I were discussing the extension of snaking talon.

    I'm going to ask Larry about this when he comes for a seminar in a few weeks, but I thought I'd get your input here first.

    Why, on the extension, would you go down on one knee?

    I understand they're supposed to be bouncing off a wall, but why on earth would you go down on the ground, only to get up again?

    Is this a 'what if I fell on my butt' move?

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    Default Re: Snaking Talon Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by amylong
    I understand they're supposed to be bouncing off a wall, but why on earth would you go down on the ground, only to get up again? Is this a 'what if I fell on my butt' move?--Amy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gin-Gin2
    Reviving thread...
    Can any of the instructors out there answer this one?

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    Umm sorry I haven't learned that one yet.
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    I'd like to know also: it doesn't seem to be a sound tactic; but there may very well be a good explanation.

    AMY: Please share with us if and when you get to find out.

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    Hello Everyone,

    Snaking Talon is a great technique, and yes I think one could pull off the extension, but I'll be the first to say, it wouldn't be my first choice of options!

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    I asked Mr. Tatum about this one and he said that it teaches you how to go down and get back up. Maybe in case you fall?

    I suspect it's one of those hideous 'category completion' techniques that either doesn't work well or teaches something odd to complete a category.

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    Default Re: Snaking Talon Extension

    Unless, like in the real world, you slipped when trying to duck a punch, turned your ankle as you moved off line, were attacking a midget (small person) with an attitude <no insult intended for the vertically challenged>

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    Sorry, I've never seen or heard of this extension so I'm afraid I couldn't be much help.

    As a matter of fact we've altered the technique itself and do not perform it in the traditional sense any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Crippler

    As a matter of fact we've altered the technique itself and do not perform it in the traditional sense any more.
    Could you explain how you guys teach it?

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    Default Re: Snaking Talon Extension

    I know this one had me wondering as well... um why are we doing this? Well, after getting comfortable with the extension, it does show me what I'm capable of if ever in a situation where I'm down in that position, but I can think of NO situtation where I would conciously go from an upright positive position to being down like that ... unless I was forced to go there.
    Quote Originally Posted by amylong
    I asked Mr. Tatum about this one and he said that it teaches you how to go down and get back up. Maybe in case you fall?

    I suspect it's one of those hideous 'category completion' techniques that either doesn't work well or teaches something odd to complete a category.

    --Amy
    I've also seen this technique performed a bit differently...

    Instead of dropping back as you pin block and snake through... one school teaches to step back and 'swat' or slap the arms in a crossing motion before they make contact with you and then snake through, regrab, kick ... BUT don't plant forward towards your opponent.. instead plant back almost into a right front cross and then bounce back w/ right back kick as you pull them in.
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    Default Re: Snaking Talon Extension

    I've been playing with: After the rear kick in the base move, plant forward right and do a left armbar/break in a forward bow causing the opponent to step forward with left foot. Then you can do a left ball kick to their left thigh and the right rear kick, all from a standing position.

    Then it maintains the movements without the dumb part.

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