short form 3 question

[0nslaught]

In short form 3, why when we do crossing talons we dont execute the knee to the face? Now i know that in the technique forms some techniques dont get completed or some moves are added but is there a specific reason why we dont do the knee here?

[Mikael151]

I don't really know, but I'm guessing since Scraping Hoof is the next tech executed; having only one foot on the ground is not a good idea.

[amylong]

I've seen it done with the knee to the face kept in, but I think leaving it out (which I do) is more for flow.

I think it generally just looks and flows better.

I was thinking recently about kata from watching the tournament in Maryland recently. There was one guy who got third place in his division. (Jamie's division)

One of the judges interrupted me talking to him (I came up to offer my observations) and told him that he got third place because he was wearing a necklace during his performance. I thought this was absurd (although maybe it's not in some circles), because I put him at third too and didn't pay any attention to his neckwear.

The reason he got third, in my opinion, was about where his attention was. I noticed that at the beginning of his kata (form 6, I think), he was paying close attention to his hands and no attention to his feet.

Then at one point, he noticed his feet and his hands sort of fell by the wayside. It wasn't anything dramatic, but the timing became about a hair off.

So, with this knowledge, I've been putting more attention on the timing of my katas so the hands and feet are as precisely timed as I can. What's interesting to me is that I thought that they were well-timed and I have been surprised to see that there are places that I'm a hair off here and there too.

I'm just sharing to possibly give some of you something to notice when practicing your own katas.

--Amy

[Celtic_Crippler]

I've never done it with the knee either...

[Takai]

I wasn't taught to do it with the knee either. I would have to agree with Amy that it would disrupt the flow of the form.

[TheGoldenOne]

In short form 3, why when we do crossing talons we dont execute the knee to the face?
Now i know that in the technique forms some techniques dont get completed or some moves are added but is there a specific reason why we dont do the knee here?

Very good question. Flow is not the reason that we do not do the knee here although it sounds and feels like an appropriate answer.

Fact is, at the time that this form was developed and the technique inserted , the knee was not part of the main technique syllabus. The knee was added to the technique base at a later time as a finishing suffix for the self defense technique in the charts.

GD7

[amylong]

Very good question. Flow is not the reason that we do not do the knee here although it sounds and feels like an appropriate answer.

Fact is, at the time that this form was developed and the technique inserted , the knee was not part of the main technique syllabus. The knee was added to the technique base at a later time as a finishing suffix for the self defense technique in the charts.

GD7

oooooooh, I knew there was a reason we had seniors on this board! They know the answers to the trick questions.

Thanks for sharing!

--Amy

P.S. I'm looking forward to meeting you. Billy and Jason say really good things about you.

[Seabrook]

Fact is, at the time that this form was developed and the technique inserted , the knee was not part of the main technique syllabus. The knee was added to the technique base at a later time as a finishing suffix for the self defense technique in the charts.

GD7

Dennis,

That is very interesting. I was not aware of that at all.

So when you teach Short 3, do you add the knee since it is part of the standard syllabus?

[John Brewer]

No knee here either.