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    Hooking wings extension.

    The first move of the extension. I have a hard time with the first move kicking the left leg. Clawing the face and kicking out the leg, I find that I'm just too darn close.

    I know the object is the spread the base, but I'm just too close to do most of it.

    I like the heelhook and the heelkick to the groin.

    But it's those first two kicks of the extension.

    Any suggestions? Discussion?

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    Default Re: Hooking Wings Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by amylong
    Hooking wings extension.

    The first move of the extension. I have a hard time with the first move kicking the left leg. Clawing the face and kicking out the leg, I find that I'm just too darn close.

    I know the object is the spread the base, but I'm just too close to do most of it.

    I like the heelhook and the heelkick to the groin.

    But it's those first two kicks of the extension.

    Any suggestions? Discussion?

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    Default Re: Hooking Wings Extension

    That's the Tatum one.

    Which one do you know? I'm certainly open to options.

    I like the hookkick to the kidney and to the groin, but not the first two strikes.

    Share.

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    Default Re: Hooking Wings Extension

    Amy,

    Don't forget when you connect hard with that upward elbow to the jaw (for real), the opponent will retreat from the shot. As such, you shouldn't be too close for the downward claw to the face, coupled with the simultaneous hook kick.


    Hope that helps.

    Jamie Seabrook

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    Default Re: Hooking Wings Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Seabrook
    Amy,

    Don't forget when you connect hard with that upward elbow to the jaw (for real), the opponent will retreat from the shot. As such, you shouldn't be too close for the downward claw to the face, coupled with the simultaneous hook kick.


    Hope that helps.

    Jamie Seabrook
    That helps. I wasn't thinking about that. I was just thinking that the opponent's legs were a bit close together. And the claw was bringing them back in from the elbow shot.

    I'll play with it. More suggestions welcome.

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    Default Re: Hooking Wings Extension

    you may want to start off with what the catalyst is to do the extension in the first place, and what 'even-ifs' may be built into the first coupla moves in the extension...

    pete

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    Default Re: Hooking Wings Extension

    Would you like to elaborate on what you had in mind for the catalyst?


    Also, it was suggested to me that trying to do the claw and first hook at the same time isn't a good idea. I never thought it was, but it's nice to see that others don't do it that way either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerkarate
    That is deffinitly not how I learned it.
    I was wrong, I got confused.
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    Default Re: Hooking Wings Extension

    i guess i was fishing for what reason there is to do the extension in the first place? if the base was successful, you've rapped him from side to side with backfists, took out his centerline with the rising elbow, and finished him off with a downward palm heel to the bridge of the nose... you can use the claw to push him aside as you cover out.

    but, no... the extension has us continue the onslaught. i've got an idea in mind that would provide me with a good reason to continue with the extension, as written (or at least as i've learned it).

    before i give my idea, i'd like to see if anybody has thought about it in these terms and what ideas they have.

    the catalyst is the trigger to respond with the specified action. i for one do not believe that the extensions, or techniques for that matter, are there to be done from beginning to end in 7 seconds or less, but to be based on a series of physical and psychic conditions that act as catalysts.

    if you agree, then provide your ideas of what catalyst would trigger the response of hooking wings extension... if you don't agree, then just say that the extension is just a suffix to the base technique...

    pete

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    Default Re: Hooking Wings Extension

    Come on Pete -- Give it up. (I mean, give up your information)

    Tell us your theory.

    Only recently have I given much thought to what drives the extensions of different moves.

    I can only think perhaps after the claw, the opponent steps back, then steps forward again towards me. Otherwise, I don't know.

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    ok amy... how 'bout the guy grabs and latches onto your right arm when you attempt the rising elbow and prevents the downward palm heel from hitting his face. turning your palm out to the right side of his face will loosen his grasp and move his weight to the right, making the left leg a good target for the first heel hook.

    just an idea... i'd like to see others

    pete.

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    crickets chirping...

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    Default Re: Hooking Wings Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by pete
    ok amy... how 'bout the guy grabs and latches onto your right arm when you attempt the rising elbow and prevents the downward palm heel from hitting his face. turning your palm out to the right side of his face will loosen his grasp and move his weight to the right, making the left leg a good target for the first heel hook.
    Or maybe you get in the elbow and he is sent back several steps before you can get the claw in, so he takes a step forward with his left foot, setting up both the claw and the first hook.

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