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    Default Thundering Hammers

    A version of Thundering Hammers!

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    Default Re: Thundering Hammers

    When I clicked on that, I got a map of the area.

    Is that where the thundering hammers happened?

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    Default Re: opps again..Thundering Hammers

    Thanks for sharing that! Thundering Hammers has always been one of my personal favorite techniques...we train it slightly different (no kick, for one thing) but it's basically the same technique. Nice!
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    Default Re: opps again..Thundering Hammers

    Looks a little different than the one I know, but very little difference.

    (Perhaps Rob could merge the two threads about it.)

    The part that looks different are the part past the hammerfists.

    What precisely are you doing to the opponent's head? Hard to see from that angle.

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    Default Re: opps again..Thundering Hammers

    Hey Amy,

    ...... I am using a right downward, palm heel, rip type of strike which keeps me in contact with my attacker while I make the stance transition. Once the above strike takes place as well as the transition, I follow up with a downward backfist to the atacker's right face(he is now looking at me because of my prior strike), then a right upward palm heel shot, and next maybe a kick to the knee or what ever I can get at this point in time.

    I guess once the attacker is down....greed is good...Hmmm....

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    Quote Originally Posted by amylong View Post
    When I clicked on that, I got a map of the area.

    Is that where the thundering hammers happened?

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    Default Re: opps again..Thundering Hammers

    Nice! Slightly different from our version also.

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    I was talking to a Kenpo Senior who will remain nameless and he was talking about the forearm strike not bending over your oponent like that. He said move it to the groin to get him to bend for the technique.

    Has anyone ever used this in combat or on a person who did not know the technique in training for their "suggested" response to that first movement?
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    I personally prefer a ridgehand to the groin....but we've hashed this out many times before. LOL. I think a major component of the effectiveness of using a forearm strike is how much "padding" the attacker has around their torso. ROFL
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    Quote Originally Posted by katsudo_karate View Post
    I was talking to a Kenpo Senior who will remain nameless and he was talking about the forearm strike not bending over your oponent like that. He said move it to the groin to get him to bend for the technique.

    Has anyone ever used this in combat or on a person who did not know the technique in training for their "suggested" response to that first movement?
    I have. I "cut" into a friends ribs (not his stomach but closer to his side) with the initial blow. He curled over as planned and had no knowledge of kenpo what so ever. I've also hit non friends with similar blows. No issues yet with making them bend over as long as the blow is a surprise. Almost anyonw can tighten the abs for a shot they see coming.
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    Default Re: opps again..Thundering Hammers

    I have seen footage of Mr. Parker adding that claw in the beginning but I have not seen anyone else use it before. Hey if it works....why not?
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    Default Re: opps again..Thundering Hammers

    I was talking to a Kenpo Senior who will remain nameless and he was talking about the forearm strike not bending over your oponent like that. He said move it to the groin to get him to bend for the technique.

    Has anyone ever used this in combat or on a person who did not know the technique in training for their "suggested" response to that first movement?
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    ......Good point. That is why it is very important to bring the head back with a finger to the eye on the initial block/strike. Once the head moves backward, the body follows and the attacker is no longer trying to keep his stomach tight because he has better things to worry about. His eye hurts and he is off balance---what a great combo!! Bam..BAM put one in his stomach his groing...what ever ya feel like...the response will be there!!!
    Try it and let me know!!

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    Default Re: Thundering Hammers

    Threads were merged together

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    Quote Originally Posted by katsudo_karate View Post
    I was talking to a Kenpo Senior who will remain nameless and he was talking about the forearm strike not bending over your oponent like that. He said move it to the groin to get him to bend for the technique.

    Has anyone ever used this in combat or on a person who did not know the technique in training for their "suggested" response to that first movement?
    In our system, that's a thumb strike to the solar plexus and not a forearm. I've been hit with it and yes, it bent me over enough for the hammer fist to the base of the skull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Crippler View Post
    I personally prefer a ridgehand to the groin....but we've hashed this out many times before. LOL. I think a major component of the effectiveness of using a forearm strike is how much "padding" the attacker has around their torso. ROFL
    Hey I resemble that remark!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenpoJuJitsu3 View Post
    I have. I "cut" into a friends ribs (not his stomach but closer to his side) with the initial blow. He curled over as planned and had no knowledge of kenpo what so ever. I've also hit non friends with similar blows. No issues yet with making them bend over as long as the blow is a surprise. Almost anyonw can tighten the abs for a shot they see coming.
    Cool good feedback James. Thanks brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blfycdq View Post
    I was talking to a Kenpo Senior who will remain nameless and he was talking about the forearm strike not bending over your oponent like that. He said move it to the groin to get him to bend for the technique.

    Has anyone ever used this in combat or on a person who did not know the technique in training for their "suggested" response to that first movement?
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    ......Good point. That is why it is very important to bring the head back with a finger to the eye on the initial block/strike. Once the head moves backward, the body follows and the attacker is no longer trying to keep his stomach tight because he has better things to worry about. His eye hurts and he is off balance---what a great combo!! Bam..BAM put one in his stomach his groing...what ever ya feel like...the response will be there!!!
    Try it and let me know!!

    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdinca View Post
    In our system, that's a thumb strike to the solar plexus and not a forearm. I've been hit with it and yes, it bent me over enough for the hammer fist to the base of the skull.
    Thanks is that AKKI ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerkarate View Post
    I have seen footage of Mr. Parker adding that claw in the beginning but I have not seen anyone else use it before. Hey if it works....why not?
    I'ld be worried about an elbow to the side of my face; intentionally or unintentionally.

    We are taught, never go past a target, without taking advantage of it, provided it does not cost us the technique. I still think I'd want to be on that right arm until the attacker bends over.

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