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    Default Short 2, Long 2, Short 3, Short 4 and Long 4

    Hey y'all, finally got some vid. of some of my forms. Feel free to comment or question. Let me know what you think. To be honest, I'm a little rusty I haven't worked some of these in quite a while.

    Anyway, here goes.

    Short 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4W75Tcidkw

    Long 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZgpHi28dRE

    Short 3 (went out of the frame a little at the end, it's tough when you don't have a cameraman)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxgfHwNFGLo

    Long 4 (went out of the frame again, but y'all know what I was doing )
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn4WGpT4hRU

    This is Short Form 4, we've had discussions regarding this form and how some haven't seen/learned it. There are a few times that I hesitate...this was due to doing this one right after I did Long 4 (trying to remember which one I was doing )
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p1LhQlBQAQ
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    Default Re: Short 2, Long 2, Short 3, Short 4 and Long 4

    Great idea to post these up! Nicely done!
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    Default Re: Short 2, Long 2, Short 3, Short 4 and Long 4

    Good job. I give credit to everyone who puts themselves out there.

    I do have a few questions:

    (1) I noticed 4 front kicks in Short Form 2. Has your school always taught it this way?

    (2) I noticed that you do Short 3 on both sides. By that I mean, once the form is completed the standard way, you then start the form all over again and do it on the other side. Did you work on this yourself or is this part of the requirements at your school?

    (3) In Long Form 4, I noticed that everything was facing the front from Unwinding Pendulum to Prance of the Tiger. Did you modify the form for tournament purposes so that your back is not to the judges or is that the way that your school teaches it?


    Thanks for posting.


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    Default Re: Short 2, Long 2, Short 3, Short 4 and Long 4

    I agree with Jamie. Good job getting those down on film. I have found it tremendously helpful to look at myself doing forms. I catch stuff that I wasn't aware of before and I'm sure that after you've watched it, you found yourself doing a ton of things you didn't realize you did.

    The extra snap kicks in short form 2 were interesting. I could see how they could fit in there. And everything facing forward in form 4 was a question I had too.

    One thing I noticed that you might want to be aware of is retracting your kicks. You fired them out with great intention, but didn't retract them the same way.

    You might also want to be aware of your targets. I know that there are many ways to do the katas, so your targeting may be different, but it seems that your targets are a little high.

    I'm going to look at them some more. It's great to see other people doing their katas. I love katas. Again, good job.

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    Nice job and kudos for the guts to put yourself out there.
    I had a question on SHort 2. When you turn to 6 and 12 with the upward block, are you doing middle knuckle punches or a raking middle knuckle. I could not tell from the video, but I learned it with a raking middle knuckle. The video lucked like a punch. It is interesting to see the differences. I also did not learn it with the kicks (but I am in kenpo infancy).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seabrook View Post
    (1) I noticed 4 front kicks in Short Form 2. Has your school always taught it this way?
    yes

    Quote Originally Posted by Seabrook View Post
    (2) I noticed that you do Short 3 on both sides. By that I mean, once the form is completed the standard way, you then start the form all over again and do it on the other side. Did you work on this yourself or is this part of the requirements at your school?
    that's the way we teach it

    Quote Originally Posted by Seabrook View Post
    (3) In Long Form 4, I noticed that everything was facing the front from Unwinding Pendulum to Prance of the Tiger. Did you modify the form for tournament purposes so that your back is not to the judges or is that the way that your school teaches it?
    That, I was told, is the reason the form was altered.

    Quote Originally Posted by amylong
    One thing I noticed that you might want to be aware of is retracting your kicks. You fired them out with great intention, but didn't retract them the same way.
    thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by amylong
    You might also want to be aware of your targets. I know that there are many ways to do the katas, so your targeting may a bit different, but it seems that your targets are a little high.
    Tara mentioned the same thing. I think part of it is that our targeting for some techniques is slightly different. Another possible reason it looks this way is that the camera was "looking" up, the angle may have made them appear to be higher than they were.

    Quote Originally Posted by gardawamtu
    Nice job and kudos for the guts to put yourself out there.
    I had a question on SHort 2. When you turn to 6 and 12 with the upward block, are you doing middle knuckle punches or a raking middle knuckle. I could not tell from the video, but I learned it with a raking middle knuckle. The video lucked like a punch. It is interesting to see the differences. I also did not learn it with the kicks (but I am in kenpo infancy).
    we teach it as a punch due to the possibility of snagging your finger on something when doing a raking middle-knuckle.


    Thanks for the feedback y'all, I welcome any other thoughts. I really need to polish my forms. After shooting these yesterday I realized it'd been almost a year since I had done some of these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenpotex View Post
    yes

    we teach it as a punch due to the possibility of snagging your finger on something when doing a raking middle-knuckle.


    Thanks for the feedback y'all, I welcome any other thoughts. I really need to polish my forms. After shooting these yesterday I realized it'd been almost a year since I had done some of these.
    Thanks,
    I figured it was altered for some purpose -- and snagging the finger makes a lot of sense.
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    Very nice! Thanks for posting!!
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    Default Re: Short 2, Long 2, Short 3, Short 4 and Long 4

    Thanks for putting it out there. Nice job!

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    Question Re: Short 2, Long 2, Short 3, Short 4 and Long 4

    why did you remove your clips? Hope you re-post them?

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