Dr. Dave in da house (05-01-2007),T-Bo (05-01-2007)
These are a couple of the gun-disarm techniques I teach in my "street" self-defense class. The specific strikes used are really not important, just pick the most logical strikes based on your respective positions, targets available, etc.
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attacker at 12:00, gun pointed at face
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe6KacYVMHk
attacker at 12:00, gun pointed at chest/midsection
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBwmqmpOnwg
For a detailed breakdown, see the photo progression at this forum. I don't remember whether guests can view threads there or not, if not and anybody expresses interest, I can repost those over here.
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Matt K.
Dr. Dave in da house (05-01-2007),T-Bo (05-01-2007)
Nice clips, thanks for posting them.
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Thanks for sharing. We we working these the other night and I see a few variations that we didn't try.
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I like it. Thanks for posting.
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thanks for the replies...
Does anybody else work disarm techniqes other than the kenpo ones?
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Matt K.
Nice clips, thanks for posting. I work them with some people outside of class. I've been lucky enough to learn some different ones from a former batallion Army Ranger, Air Force Commando as well as a close friend who grew up in Isreal and was in the Isreali army. All different techniques but same purpose. I should try to get some clips of them.
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Cool. Do you ever work gun disarms with the attacker holding the weapon "Gangsta'" style?
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Yeah, when we actually have a class dedicated to gun disarms, we'll hold them every-which-way we can think of (high,low, "gangsta," 12, 3, 6, 9, etc.). We also work them with the attacker grabbing you with his off-hand while pointing the gun at you. When I shot these it was in response to a thread on another forum where some people were saying that gun-disarms were not going to work because they're too complicated and that the BG is going to shoot as soon as you move. I left these simple just to show the speed and simplicity of the technique.
The test: "Will this work so that I can use it instinctively in vital combat against an opponent who is determined to prevent me from doing so, and who is striving to eliminate me by fair means or foul?" ~ Col. Rex Applegate
Matt K.
actually i thought the "gangsta" holding was more of a distance thing with multiple targets.. using the recoil to move to the next one or something.. ppl like to look badass upclose tho..
altho i agree with you on the disarming point... his hand and arm are already half way rotated for you.. twisting outward away from his body hight give him some momentum to hook you.. but inward.. heh he he
I've thought of doing a clinic on gun disarms with a paint ball gun. That way you know whether or not you'd get hit and it would also address "Where" the bullet goes. For instance, you're o.k. but does your buddy/wife/kid get hit!?!? Anybody else thought of that or done that in practice?
"It is sobering to reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence." Charles A. Beard
The test: "Will this work so that I can use it instinctively in vital combat against an opponent who is determined to prevent me from doing so, and who is striving to eliminate me by fair means or foul?" ~ Col. Rex Applegate
Matt K.
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Great clips. I would add that you should always act really scared when about to disarm a gun or knife. I would probably pretend to start crying and begging for my life and then explode into the technique. Don't act tough or seem you know what you are doing, or you may get him to start paying more attention to you.
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bdparsons (05-01-2007)
We have Professor Wedlake coming in to Connecticut this weekend to teach a seminar on the "Rod" techniques. Looking forward to it.
I like teaching the students to get to the "dead side" (outside) of the gun and work the counter from there.
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When coming in from the dead side I have always thought it a good idea to check the elbow to prevent target re-aquisition and then slide up the forearm for the disarm. Cheapie air soft is the way to go because you can dremel the trigger gard off so no one gets broken fingers during aggressive stripping.
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In the high-frontal clip, have you tried striking (right ridge hand) to the inside of the wrist and controlling/ stripping with the left hand? You might see a greater ability to disarm under active resistance
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