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    Default Yellow Belt Techniques for review

    There isn't a better audience to critique my SD Technique than the folks here at Kenpo Talk. This is difficult but fun. I'm hoping for honest, brutal, constructive criticism. This is best I can execute these techniques at present. I'll be building and continually refining a personal library of all technique & forms for review here on KT in my effort to improve. These are all EPAK techniques as I understand them.

    Thank you for taking the time to view and comment.

    Delayed Sword
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYpXCWdWOCQ
    Delayed Sword half speed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I1hVxXchOw

    Alternating Maces
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRY2sbZzww8
    Alternating Maces half speed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Gu3_u88CM

    Sword of Destruction
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWj-9q7wy4o
    Sword of Destruction half speed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HssJEPZmZA

    Deflecting Hammer
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ9D4RZvYrE
    Deflecting Hammer half speed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2m3fmzMxG4

    Captured Twigs
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4exe5a2Dfow
    Captured Twigs half speed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zOI0Ac3ATE

    Mace of Aggression
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DXibwjmJAQ
    Mace of Aggression half speed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K82OrLTEPck

    Attacking Mace (Left Side), I didn't realize I was doing the wrong side until I got home
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hub0U_lPLWs
    Attacking Mace (Left Side) half speed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOW1ACBjemQ

    Sword & Hammer
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHsBoLYZKC4
    Sword & Hammer half speed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udcqtQP9e0Y

    Grasp of Death
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx95FEMJCwE
    Grasp of Death half speed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRBejcGlKsk
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    Thank you for posting. I look forward to speaking with you.

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    Thanks for sharing these videos with such a good attitude! I'm looking forward to watching each of them...and criticizing you mercilessly. Just kidding about that last part...probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Ellis View Post
    Thanks for sharing these videos with such a good attitude! I'm looking forward to watching each of them...and criticizing you mercilessly. Just kidding about that last part...probably.
    Drankin has already started threads addressing the main issue... elongating circles. It will add body to the strikes. He is on top of it.
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    Thanks for the videos.

    More of a question than a criticism: In Grasp of Death, what are you doing with the opponent's arm as you escape the hold? The way I teach it, which is all fine if you are doing something different btw, I want the student to show me a straightening of the arm by pulling forcefully up and away, past the hip, as you use your left arm to take down, control and pin the opponent's arm/shoulder. Just some food for thought.
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    Thank you again for the comments. I'm going to disable commenting on youtube so that we keep all the discussion of the techniques here. Going back and forth between this thread and the youtube breaks the conversations up too much. These videos are going to be deleted and replaced as I refine them. The only problem is at some point I lose the ability to edit the opening thread. Maybe Mr. Hubbard can help me with that.

    This is a bit of an experiment for me.
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    I like your intensity and power. Which can be a big hurdle for a lot of people. In time all the refining will fall in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristospheros View Post
    Thanks for the videos.

    More of a question than a criticism: In Grasp of Death, what are you doing with the opponent's arm as you escape the hold? The way I teach it, which is all fine if you are doing something different btw, I want the student to show me a straightening of the arm by pulling forcefully up and away, past the hip, as you use your left arm to take down, control and pin the opponent's arm/shoulder. Just some food for thought.
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    I see what your saying. I was visualizing that his arm stays around my neck as I'm grabbing his right wrist with my right hand. Then I'm forcing my left forearm under and behind his arm at the shoulder while I pull my head out of the hold. Not trying to straightening his arm but pull it behind him as I bring my legs together using my forearm as the fulcrum. The difference then is I'm keeping his arm bent until I force him down and straighten it before the punch.
    Basics, the rest is bullshytery.

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    Ok. If the guy has a really tight hold on you, then straightening the arm AS you force him down may be an option to consider. You might also get a nasty hyperextension as you settle in your stance. It is a timing preference issue perhaps.
    Thanks for being open.
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    D', my friend... There's a couple of things I have questions on... Not too be really badly condemning. <-- Just goofin' with ya.

    But are you now, or have you ever been a Tracy stylist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigung86 View Post
    D', my friend... There's a couple of things I have questions on... Not too be really badly condemning. <-- Just goofin' with ya.

    But are you now, or have you ever been a Tracy stylist?
    I've never been a Tracy stylist. I've just recently become familiar with it by reading Mr. Tracy's blogs. I never knew the history or relationships with Mr. Parker before that.
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    My only comment is that in many of the techniques you start with your hands down, yet you lift your hand up to hammering point of reference to start the technique.

    Why wouldn't you either start from the hands up position or move from the thrusting point of reference you start at?

    Though when you do Sword of Destruction you move through thust and graft to whip outward. So in that technique you do move properly from your starting point.

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    I give you points for posting vids of yourself. Not many willing to do that. Looked pretty good. Would love to see them on an attacker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastcoastkenpoist View Post
    My only comment is that in many of the techniques you start with your hands down, yet you lift your hand up to hammering point of reference to start the technique.

    Why wouldn't you either start from the hands up position or move from the thrusting point of reference you start at?

    Though when you do Sword of Destruction you move through thust and graft to whip outward. So in that technique you do move properly from your starting point.

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    Yep, I've gotten some other comments concerning the path of my blocks. I'm changing them to a more circular route in an effort to recruit additional muscle. Attempting to integrate some concepts Mr. Chapel has shared with us. My blocks have become more powerful. It's new to me so it looks a bit psuedo. Because there is more muscle, more power involved, I'm needing a new level of control of my arm.

    Delayed Sword, for example, I feel that I could potentially dislocate the opponents arm at the elbow as I hammer through it with marriage of gravity. Frankly, it feels badass.
    Basics, the rest is bullshytery.

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    I want to point out something:




    1. DELAYED SWORD (front - right hand lapel grab)
    1. Standing naturally, step back with your left foot toward 6:00 into a right neutral bow stance facing 12:00, while simultaneously executing a right inward block to the right inner wrist of your opponent's right hand lapel grab. At the same time position your left hand at solar-plexus level as a precautionary check against further action. (Your block should clear your opponent's right arm, and expose the width of his body.)
    This is directly from Mr Parker memoirs. He doesn't specify the path of the block. (But I just realized that he does specify the target.)
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    Drankin,
    Why do you think he specified the wrist as opposed to the elbow? I tend to favor a bit higher on the arm, but why not near the elbow joint?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristospheros View Post
    Drankin,
    Why do you think he specified the wrist as opposed to the elbow? I tend to favor a bit higher on the arm, but why not near the elbow joint?
    I really don't know. I just realized this when I went to look at the technique as he wrote it concerning the inward block.
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    Food for thought:
    I have been taught this technique against a grab, an attempted grab, a right punch, a right push etc. In Tracys they will cock the block instead of thrusting, so there is more than one way to skin this cat. Have a partner grab you and then make contact with the block at the wrist. We won't be able to test all the variables of this technique in a static position, but we can learn about structure. Inch by inch move your blocking arm up the attackers arm, noting the effects, until you reach the elbow. It is just something I do to make students aware of relationships.

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    If your hands are down when the attack begins and you first cock your hand to a Hammering index in preparation for executing Delayed Sword against a punch...you will eat the punch.

    The blocking method will depend on the initial position of the defender's hands and the nature of the attack. For instance, I practice Delayed Sword as a defense against a right hand front lapel grab. As discussed online before, this is likely an intimidation grab. My hands come up, then the block drops down. Different story if it is a punch, however.

    I may be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Ellis View Post
    If your hands are down when the attack begins and you first cock your hand to a Hammering index in preparation for executing Delayed Sword against a punch...you will eat the punch.

    The blocking method will depend on the initial position of the defender's hands and the nature of the attack. For instance, I practice Delayed Sword as a defense against a right hand front lapel grab. As discussed online before, this is likely an intimidation grab. My hands come up, then the block drops down. Different story if it is a punch, however.

    I may be wrong.
    This weekend I'm going to rework Delayed Sword as well as a few other techs per everyones suggestions.

    I've got to say, going through techniques in front of a camera really forces you push it hard. Hours of hard repetition until you feel you've got something worthy of posting. I have a class that meets on Saturday so the rest of the week I train by myself. There is no substitute for a real training partner but this has really torn me up.

    Thanks J, and everyone else that has commented.
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