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    Are there any Kenpoists around here that also get into "Body Building"?? Maybe not pro, or even amateur... but recreational...etc. ?

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    I would consider myself a recreational builder. I won't ever be able to get on a stage however I do push myself and my partner to the limits each and every time in the gym.

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    I workout with weights 4 times a week but wouldn't consider myself a bodybuilder. I just like having a little more mass on me. I have a student that is 6'4 and 245, and this dude is jacked! I love working on him!!! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother John
    Are there any Kenpoists around here that also get into "Body Building"?? Maybe not pro, or even amateur... but recreational...etc. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother John
    Are there any Kenpoists around here that also get into "Body Building"?? Maybe not pro, or even amateur... but recreational...etc. ?

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    By "recreational" body building do you mean lifting kegs and chugging beer? If that's the case there are a lot of Body Builders in Kenpo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jfarnsworth
    I would consider myself a recreational builder. I won't ever be able to get on a stage however I do push myself and my partner to the limits each and every time in the gym.
    Oh bull, all you ever do is ride that dumb bike.
    " Come with me, and I will complete your trainning."

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    I also lift, so I can look as good as the Hit Man, and Mr. Conatser!
    " Come with me, and I will complete your trainning."

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    I lift though not as much as before

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    I lift weights on a semi regular basis, to gain mass and muscle endurance...but only in the context for martial arts.

    anyone reccomend a good workout?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Kenpo
    Oh bull, all you ever do is ride that dumb bike.
    I do ride my bike, you know but I also lift lots of weight.

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    I used to lift to gain mass but then it started affecting my flexibility and twitching reaction. Now I'm trying to find an exercise program that is geared more towards explosive power & like you mentioned muscle endurance.

    Right now I'm lifting lighter weights with more reps versus heavy weights to failure.

    I'm open to a good workout regimen also.


    Quote Originally Posted by dubljay
    I lift weights on a semi regular basis, to gain mass and muscle endurance...but only in the context for martial arts.

    anyone reccomend a good workout?

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    OMG Body Building
    That hurts just thinking about it.
    Check this joke out: http://www.barricksinsurance.com/bodybuilding_joke.html

    But seriously, I use hand weights 3 to 4 times a week for my arms/shoulders and Monday thru Friday I use hand grips while I'm stuck in traffic driving to work. (we Sloths need a good grip)
    I no longer feel any pain from inside/outside blocks (unless they get the radial nerve, don't you hate that!!)
    What have I learned from this???

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    I used to, but stopped. My Dr. has recommended I start again.
    Just because you do something one way, does not mean that everyone else does it that way, or that it is even the correct way.

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    I started it back in highschool at the encouragement of my father and his friend who said that I had "The frame for it". I've really enjoyed it too. Back when I studied GoJu Ryu Karate the Sensei of the dojo was a very successful amateur bodybuilder and was known as much for that as for his Karate school (which was an excellent school back in the day).

    It's never been something that impeded my flexibility. So long as all of your movements in the exercises use the full range of motion and you don't neglect your stretching....I've never seen a problem. Tom Platz, the man known for his INCREADIBLY HUGE thigh development (mostly back in the 80's) could touch his forehead to his knees on the spot...w/no warm-up. When I studied some exercise physiology in college it was officially proven to me that the whole "Muscle bound" idea was a farce. Weight trianing doesn't lead to being bound up, improper technique does though.

    I'd like to address something that Asangria had said:

    I used to lift to gain mass but then it started affecting my flexibility and twitching reaction. Now I'm trying to find an exercise program that is geared more towards explosive power & like you mentioned muscle endurance. Right now I'm lifting lighter weights with more reps versus heavy weights to failure.


    I'm not singling this out to be argumentative, but maybe to start up a discussion:
    Iv'e already talked about my thoughts on the 'flexibility' issue....so I'll Just address the "exercise....geared toward explosive power" subject. In the field of Olympic or professional sports training there is virtually no sport (Curling is NOT a sport) that doesn't address a need for power through weight trianing. Type II muscle fiber, the type descriptively known as "Fast Twitch" fiber is stimulated first by load.... meaning that in order to create a better 'twitch' response in the muscle you need to place demands on it that tax it significantly. You mentioned that having this 'fast twitch' response and "explosive power" matter to you....but you also said that you aren't lifting heavy...but lighter weights.
    Now....you can do what you want, but I'd suggest you check into exercise science for your answers on this. Don't just take my word for it, it'll make a bigger impression on you if you find out for yourself. The key to developing "Explosive Power" is:
    #1: Proper technique. You can NOT beat proper technique for getting the job done.
    #2: Bag work. (Done properly)
    #3: Weight training supplemented with plyometrics.

    The weight training should be intense, meaning....heavy. Using heavy weights trains your muscles to exert maximal force and recruit a greater number of muscle spindles and engage them as QUICKLY as possible. This especially effects Type II muscle fibers.

    Look into it....You'll be glad you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubljay
    I lift weights on a semi regular basis, to gain mass and muscle endurance...but only in the context for martial arts.

    anyone reccomend a good workout?



    play basketball. running back and fourth is excellent excercise for the legs, abs, glutes, and especially stamina.

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    Hi John,



    I believe that we all need to be at top physical condition.



    Bodybuilding and weight lifting in general are great help for most of us. To keep things balanced I do a lot of stretching.



    For some Kenpo related arts lifting is an absolute necessity to reach brown and black belt just because of the requirements involved



    Keep it up.

    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seig
    I used to, but stopped. My Dr. has recommended I start again.
    Years back my Dr. said the same thing to help w/ a couple of joint problems (gee...we martial artists NEVER have those, do we?). It has helped.

    So...have you started back yet? If so, has it helped? Why, in particular, did the doctor suggest weight training for you? What kind of weight training do (or would) you prefer??

    Just wondrin....

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    I'm not really into body building, but I am into weightlifting. I have found that weightlifting has "cured" my left wrist problems (injured years ago in a work-related accident). Apparently, without physical therapy, it remained weak and painful, so I used to favor my left hand and not use it as much. With the weightlifting, it actually got better. What's more, it doesn't hurt any more and I can punch better and harder. The same thing with an old back injury from my high school track and field days--it got better with weightlifting.

    What I've learned from this is proper strength training is an absolute must--not just to keep fit--to maintain muscles at their peak efficiency.

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    hey John....I still have your periodization book remind me to give it back to you this year sometime
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