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    Question differences between EPAK and shaolin kempo?

    What are the differences between EPAK, and shaolin kempo???
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    Default Re: differences between EPAK and shaolin kempo?

    techniques are different
    forms are different
    terminology is different
    basics are very similar

    i took Shaolin Kempo under the Cerio lineage
    and now i am under the Planas lineage

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    Default Re: differences between EPAK and shaolin kempo?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0nslaught View Post
    techniques are different
    forms are different
    terminology is different
    basics are very similar

    i took Shaolin Kempo under the Cerio lineage
    and now i am under the Planas lineage
    ......Yeah, what Onslaught said!
    It's kinda like asking "what's the difference between Egg drop soup and a Pizza?
    The ingredients are different
    The method in which it's made is different
    The outcome is very different.

    I had a friend who studied in "Shaolin Kempo" for 2 1/2 years before he had to move back to Kansas. He came back and wanted to 'share' his art with me. I watched everything he could do and read his manuals. I said "Um.......NAH....thanks though."
    Soon, he was my student and said that he enjoyed American Kenpo much more and felt it was a more practical way to prepare for real combat.

    Honestly, that's a limited take on things as he was not a black belt and I only 'experienced it' for a couple of hours one day several years ago...

    What you should do is OBSERVE (notice, I didn't say just 'watch' ; there is a big difference) ......Observe TWO classes from each style's school if you can. Go ask questions.
    PLEASE: Do NOT be fooled into thinking that just because something has the title "Shaolin" that it has Anything to do with the Temple in China.
    Neither art does.

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    Default Re: differences between EPAK and shaolin kempo?

    John, Mark already studies Cerio's kempo nad previously some SKK IIRC, I think he is just looking for some info about AKK.

    Mark,
    I do SKK but I have an active interest in American Kenpo too. There are lots of differences I have observed:

    In AK there is a lot more in writing. Principles, concepts, terminology, everything is codified and organized. In SK, I think many of the same principles and concepts are part of the material, but they are not as EXPLICIT. You have to feel your way. Hopefully your teacher felt his way to the same place...

    It seems to me that SK uses more manipulations - grabbing and twisting stuff - than AK does. But I really haven't seen enough AK to be sure about that. it seems liek AK prefers to strike, stirke more, then strike a little more; SK prefers to strike, then twist something, then strike some more

    The stances. SKK uses stances with the feet oriented towards 12 (half moon). AK uses the neutral bow (feet rotated 45). This makes everything from the feet up different.
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    Default Re: differences between EPAK and shaolin kempo?

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidCC View Post
    John, Mark already studies Cerio's kempo nad previously some SKK IIRC, I think he is just looking for some info about AKK.

    Mark,
    I do SKK but I have an active interest in American Kenpo too. There are lots of differences I have observed:

    In AK there is a lot more in writing. Principles, concepts, terminology, everything is codified and organized. In SK, I think many of the same principles and concepts are part of the material, but they are not as EXPLICIT. You have to feel your way. Hopefully your teacher felt his way to the same place...

    It seems to me that SK uses more manipulations - grabbing and twisting stuff - than AK does. But I really haven't seen enough AK to be sure about that. it seems liek AK prefers to strike, stirke more, then strike a little more; SK prefers to strike, then twist something, then strike some more

    The stances. SKK uses stances with the feet oriented towards 12 (half moon). AK uses the neutral bow (feet rotated 45). This makes everything from the feet up different.
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    There are approximately 1 million people in Nebraska who have been praying to whatever higher power they pray to for that very thing, every night, for the last 9 months. We have a chance, if we can hold on to the ball.
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    Default Re: differences between EPAK and shaolin kempo?

    Chance? 1.5% is my guess
    The above is just my opinion.

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    Well, at least we didn't turn it over too much.

    Looks like we need to learn to tackle
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    Default Re: differences between EPAK and shaolin kempo?

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidCC View Post
    Well, at least we didn't turn it over too much.

    Looks like we need to learn to tackle
    At least you scored a bunch of points. We friggin fizzled.
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