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    Question Adriano Emperado's top black belt

    Just a brain teaser someone tossed at me. The question is: When Emperado passed on, who was his top black belt?
    Anyone have the answer to this?
    I want to say it was Ed Parker. Can anyone confirm this?
    Thanks much.
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    Default Re: Adriano Emperado's top black belt

    Quote Originally Posted by kajukenpo_grl
    Just a brain teaser someone tossed at me. The question is: When Emperado passed on, who was his top black belt?
    Anyone have the answer to this?
    I want to say it was Ed Parker. Can anyone confirm this?
    Thanks much.
    kk_grl
    I don't think that Mr. Parker listed Mr. Emperado as his 'instructor' per-say. He always spoke of Mr. Chow as his Kempo instructor.
    BUT: I'd always heard that Mr. Paker and Mr. Emerado had a heck of a rapport together and that they definitely exchanged/shared ideas... knowing how Mr. Parker was a GREAT student, learning from everyone and everything that he could, I'm sure he gained a great deal through his experiences with the great Mr. Emperado.........whom, as I understand it, was FULL of knowledge and experience.

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    Default Re: Adriano Emperado's top black belt

    I just want to point out that Sijo Emperado has NOT passed on. If you are seriously curious, you could actually try to ask him.

    I don't consider Mr. Parker to have been Mr. Emperado's student either.

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    Default Re: Adriano Emperado's top black belt

    Thank you,
    After doing a little research after posting my message, i came to find that exact answer. The answer to the brain teaser was that he had not passed on but Joe Emerado did in 1958.
    Thanks again for posting tho!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kajukenpo_grl
    Thank you,
    After doing a little research after posting my message, i came to find that exact answer. The answer to the brain teaser was that he had not passed on but Joe Emerado did in 1958.
    Thanks again for posting tho!
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    Hi kk_grl,

    Yes that is a common mistake when reading and finding something that you are not familiar with or just learning.
    The brain teaser or the riddle or koan...Or just a mistake.

    I see sometimes in print on various web sites, a reference to Sonny.

    Now if you are thinking of Sonny Gascon and some one has not made it clear when using the word "Sonny" they could have been talking about Sijo Adriano Emperado.

    Regards, Gary

    PS. I like your signature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary A Brewer
    Hi kk_grl,

    Yes that is a common mistake when reading and finding something that you are not familiar with or just learning.
    The brain teaser or the riddle or koan...Or just a mistake.

    I see sometimes in print on various web sites, a reference to Sonny.

    Now if you are thinking of Sonny Gascon and some one has not made it clear when using the word "Sonny" they could have been talking about Sijo Adriano Emperado.

    Regards, Gary

    PS. I like your signature.
    Gary,
    Ahhh, now that I did not know. Thank you! I am just now starting to look into the background of the style I study and I must say, it all has caught my interest right away. I've searched so many sites looking for information and not all are the same but have similar concepts.
    Thanks for looking out!
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    Hi,

    The history of Kajukenbo is really interesting. Many off shoots, yet still under the same roof.

    If you go to www.kajukenbocafe.com you will find a website full of informaion.

    If you look closly you will find lots of good quality posts by John Bishop regarding the History and who, what, where, and when of the different branchs.

    The thing that is interesting, unlike other organizations that branched off you don't seem to have the petty bickering and underlaying hostility like in other forums.

    That is good in some ways, but you might wonder, if no other input but what everyone wants to hear, is it really over monitored?

    It kind of reminds me of the Ozzie and Harriet series back in the 50's.

    Regards, Gary

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    Very true.....
    Thanks for the link. Between this forum and that one, I can't get enough of it!
    Keep in touch, I'm sure I will have more questions!! My curiousity has sky-rocketed thanks to you lol!!!

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    Hi,
    Anyone know the answer to the question as to who was the top black belt?
    Was it at one time considered to be GM A. Reyes?

    I have another question. Why are there several starting dates as far as the founding of Kajukenbo. I have seen 1947 and 1960 could anyone explain that?

    Regards, Gary

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    Default Re: Adriano Emperado's top black belt

    Marino Tiwanak was Emperado's FIRST black belt. After Tiwanak challenged him and lost he joined him.

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    Default Re: Adriano Emperado's top black belt

    Seriously? That is pretty interesting... Care to share any details of the incident?

    You are our "CHA3 connection" now you know...
    The above is just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianhsuhe View Post
    Seriously? That is pretty interesting... Care to share any details of the incident?

    You are our "CHA3 connection" now you know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHA3KENPO View Post
    Marino Tiwanak was Emperado's FIRST black belt. After Tiwanak challenged him and lost he joined him.
    Actually, Marino Tiwanak was Emperado's first student to go from white belt to black belt. So he is often referred to as Adriano's first black belt.
    But in reality his younger brother, Joe Emperado was his first black belt. Joe had gone up to green with Prof. Chow, and was promoted to brown and then black by Adriano when they started the Palama Settlement school. He received his black belt in 1952. The next black belt would have been Tiwanak in 55-56.

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    Default Re: Adriano Emperado's top black belt

    lucky for me when i competed at the internationals in California in 1990 i was fortunate enough to meet sijo emperado he was very nice. unfortunately for me i was 16yrs old and knew of him but not the important role he has played in my own kenpo history. i really enjoyed your history post and i am definitely going to investigate the kajukenbo connection more closely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Bishop View Post
    Actually, Marino Tiwanak was Emperado's first student to go from white belt to black belt. So he is often referred to as Adriano's first black belt.
    But in reality his younger brother, Joe Emperado was his first black belt. Joe had gone up to green with Prof. Chow, and was promoted to brown and then black by Adriano when they started the Palama Settlement school. He received his black belt in 1952. The next black belt would have been Tiwanak in 55-56.
    Thats right, I forgot about Joe because he started training with Chow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary A Brewer View Post
    Hi,
    Anyone know the answer to the question as to who was the top black belt?
    Was it at one time considered to be GM A. Reyes?

    I have another question. Why are there several starting dates as far as the founding of Kajukenbo. I have seen 1947 and 1960 could anyone explain that?

    Regards, Gary
    I have no idea why people states 1960 as being the starting date of Kajukenbo. Kajukenbo was founded between 1947 and 1949 by Sijo Emperado and four other black belts from different styles.
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