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    Default Kajukenbo Punch Counter 1

    First punch counter of the Kaju system

    The first four punch counters are based off of the first one

    Punch Counter 1
    (right cross/reverse punch to face)

    a) brush block left/hammer strike (cutting diagonally) to attackers bicep/snapping kick with right foot to attackers groin,

    b) step back with right leg to cover

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    So it's left block/right kick? I was taught that counter considerably later in the system I came up in. -Rob
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    That left "brush block" w/ diagonal hammerfist to the bicep is straight from Professor Chow's #1-7 in Kara-Ho. Although my memory might be cloudy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkC View Post
    That left "brush block" w/ diagonal hammerfist to the bicep is straight from Professor Chow's #1-7 in Kara-Ho. Although my memory might be cloudy.

    Also isn't there a technique in Tracy kenpo called"Passing Wind" in Brown belt that is similiar?
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    Tradition is not about the preservation of the ashes, but about keeping the flame alive

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirkS View Post
    Also isn't there a technique in Tracy kenpo called"Passing Wind" in Brown belt that is similiar?
    Our Passing Wind is similar but a longer technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkC View Post
    That left "brush block" w/ diagonal hammerfist to the bicep is straight from Professor Chow's #1-7 in Kara-Ho. Although my memory might be cloudy.
    Pretty standard limb destruction in the FMA circles and its in AK as Taming the Mace.
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    I'm just proud that I haven't commented on "Passing Wind". So far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindside View Post
    Pretty standard limb destruction in the FMA circles and its in AK as Taming the Mace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkC View Post
    I'm just proud that I haven't commented on "Passing Wind". So far.
    Me too...lol...don't even want to know how they came up with that name
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    Quote Originally Posted by HKphooey View Post
    Gunting... gotta love it.
    Yay for gunting! In another system I've been training, we have the gunting (unarmed) with a poc sao/lop sao (depending on the energy direction) and a few further maneuvers to complete. I do like this for split entry technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson View Post
    Do you have a vid of this tech done more from an actual street or close in scenario without the exagerated stance and reverse lunge punch setup?
    Nelson,

    I'll have to look and see what i can find on youtube...i have alot of vids downloaded to my computer
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    Not a problem...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkC View Post
    I'm just proud that I haven't commented on "Passing Wind". So far.
    Trying keeping a straight face when you first learn the technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkC View Post
    That left "brush block" w/ diagonal hammerfist to the bicep is straight from Professor Chow's #1-7 in Kara-Ho. Although my memory might be cloudy.
    I have heard that as well. I have talked with one Kajukenbo senior who stated that the gunting in Kajukenbo came from Sijo Emperado's FMA experience. But, I have also talked with another high ranking person who was also familiar with Prof. Chow's methods that the gunting seen in Punch Counter one was straight from Prof. Chow and what he did. Not that he also couldn't have picked it up from the FMA's, but it was very common in his approach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson View Post
    Do you have a vid of this tech done more from an actual street or close in scenario without the exagerated stance and reverse lunge punch setup?
    If you get the chance, buy the WKO dvds. They have footage of Sijo performing some of their techniques and also include all of the material from white to black on it.

    The punch counters are based on a right cross punch since the founders experience was mostly against people who had boxing training. On the video, you will see it as a right cross and not a step through punch.

    For those who really like the empty hand gunting aspect. I really recommend Ron Balikci's DVD set on "Filipino Boxing". Balicki is a JKD instructor under Dan Inosanto. It is 3 dvds and has progressive drills to work various gunting both punches and kicks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by punisher73 View Post
    I have heard that as well. I have talked with one Kajukenbo senior who stated that the gunting in Kajukenbo came from Sijo Emperado's FMA experience. But, I have also talked with another high ranking person who was also familiar with Prof. Chow's methods that the gunting seen in Punch Counter one was straight from Prof. Chow and what he did. Not that he also couldn't have picked it up from the FMA's, but it was very common in his approach.
    Yep. I trained Kara-Ho for a while and this was the first move of "Professor Chow's # 1. Then for 2- 7, you just keep building, adding to this basic movement.
    Jamie Gibson can comment in more detail if he spots this thread, he's got a lot more expereince of Kara-Ho than I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KirkS View Post
    this blonde heaed guy is my kaju instructor, Sigung Burt Vickers.
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    The guy on the left isn't as wide in his stances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson View Post
    Do you have a vid of this tech done more from an actual street or close in scenario without the exagerated stance and reverse lunge punch setup?
    Kaju systems are not all the same. There are quite a few variations of the system (spent a year in Kajukenpo).

    Here is another video
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