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    Default Kosho Ne-Waza

    I was recently suprised at a seminar done by Kyoshi Pat Kelly as he applied a number of Kosho principles to ground work on a student that also studies BJJ. I wasn't surprised by the applicability of Kosho to the ground but I was suprised to learn that before Hanshi Juchnik injured his knee he would regularly practice Randori and teach Kosho Ne-Waza.

    How many of you study the application of kosho to the ground?
    Are there any of Hanshi's early students on Kenpotalk that can comment on Hanshi's lessons on the ground?

    Thank you.
    _don flatt

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    Default Re: Kosho Ne-Waza

    I've done quite a bit of this.
    That is the beauty of learning by principle......you can put yourself in a position and see where they fit.

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    Default Re: Kosho Ne-Waza

    Before I started studying Kosho, I was practicing a techniques (moves) based Kenpo. One of the things that I love about Kosho is the universal nature of it's concepts and theories. The process of discovery - how does this principle apply to this situation. Taking movements from Kata or even everyday and experimenting - How does this apply from this position/angle? How does it change if I change my mindset or if the uke uses a different attack? What principals are in effect and how can I use them to manipulate the uke?

    I kind of figured it would apply to the ground but to see a high ranking teacher like Sensei Kelly apply it was inspiring to say the least. Since then I've had all kinds of ideas I've wanted to play with. For example: Zig Zag Theory - using the zig zag pattern for offence & defence on the ground. Blocking and escaping submission locks as BJJ would apply by using octagon and zig zag to counter his positioning and movements.

    Just some thoughts but I'd love to hear what you guys would have to say? Or any of your findings from your personal experimentation.

    _Don Flatt

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    Default Re: Kosho Ne-Waza

    I have seen sensei kelly also do this to a BJJ black belt.
    He also made someone tap by just useing his legs also...
    that was really cool to see. I have Pat Kelly sensei coming out to my school and to master evans school for a weekend of training.
    you can go to my web page at www.shaolinkempotraining.com
    for more info. under events
    Don also are you going to deshi #2 this month at master evans?
    kosho

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