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    Hi,
    What does this mean?
    what has to happen to make this happen?
    balance - in-balance
    ETC...
    I would like to see and hear others input...
    steve

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    Throwing Art -- the art of throwing someone or something in such a way that it brings tears to someone's eyes and a great appreciation for what they witnessed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amylong View Post
    Throwing Art -- the art of throwing someone or something in such a way that it brings tears to someone's eyes and a great appreciation for what they witnessed.

    --Amy
    Amy,

    I am not so sure those are tears of joy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amylong View Post
    Throwing Art -- the art of throwing someone or something in such a way that it brings tears to someone's eyes and a great appreciation for what they witnessed.

    --Amy
    I so wish I had that in my back pocket as an answer in my Aikido days...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takai View Post
    Amy,

    I am not so sure those are tears of joy.
    (The tears are from the one thrown and the appreciation for what was witnessed was by the person who did the throwing.)

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    depends on who's tears they are..

    but in further answer to your question... as for what is needed..

    An understanding of center of gravity. Good footwork.. remembering that a throw alone will almost never work.. it needs to be proceeded with some type of stun or strike to setup...


    My throwing art was Goshin Ju-Jitsu, the throws werre mostly reaps and some hip throws.. all of them required you removing your opponents center of gravity while keeping your own.
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    Most of the ones in Aikido have to do with balance related manipulations. The ones like Koshinage (hip throw) or Iriminage (entering throw) are interupts. You obstruct thier motion with your own body to cause the fall. In balance related throws like kotegaeshi or sumiotoshi you take thier balance then redirect the energy into a throw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosho View Post
    Hi,
    What does this mean?
    what has to happen to make this happen?
    balance - in-balance
    ETC...
    I would like to see and hear others input...
    steve
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    Kosho explains it as fold-arch-throw. Sometimes it happens in steps sometimes almost at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin6 View Post
    Most of the ones in Aikido have to do with balance related manipulations. The ones like Koshinage (hip throw) or Iriminage (entering throw) are interupts. You obstruct thier motion with your own body to cause the fall. In balance related throws like kotegaeshi or sumiotoshi you take thier balance then redirect the energy into a throw.
    I have always like kotegaeshi. It was one technique that seemed really natural to me while I was training in Aikido.
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    edited for being "too stupid"
    I apologize for wasting this space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Crippler View Post
    edited for being "too stupid"
    I apologize for wasting this space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Crippler View Post
    edited for being "too stupid"
    I apologize for wasting this space.

    Is this a blanket apology?

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    I did not feel like studying for my Advanced Nutrition quiz so I went on you tube and came across this. It has some throwing art in it. I kind of foun alot of this stuff pretty cool.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PJJXq0KDtk&NR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosho View Post
    Hi,
    What does this mean?
    what has to happen to make this happen?
    balance - in-balance
    ETC...
    I would like to see and hear others input...
    steve
    is this like a principle you were taught?

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    Hanshi juchnik did a seminar on throwing arts... It really opened my eyes to how easy it is to throw someone now... and how it is also easy to defend from being throw... I could write a book from what Hanshi says during his seminars. he really passes on a ton of info. if you are really following what he says. master Evans who is my main teacher passed on the throwing arts by giving me a paper that gives all the main info on throwing arts... whats on that paper is priceless... I have been working the throwing arts for many, many years... and now when i teach them and to others who have know the throwing arts. it opens there eyes to a new way of thinking... so yes Balance to in-balance, Folding, and center. are all things Master Evans, and Hanshi juchnik has shared with me in the throwing arts...
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    i started a thread a while back on one principle used in throwing arts....check it out here, feel free to post some of your thoughts.

    The balance principle you are talking about, would it be happo no kuzushi?

    Kuzushi is the art of "off-balancing" your opponent to make it easier to throw them.
    You can do this several ways, with visual, aural or physical distraction, which momentarily disrupts your opponents balance long enough to make a throw easier to execute.

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    Well yes it would seem to be really close to that ( happo no kuzushi)
    the octagon comes into play. and timeing, folding, ETC...
    as with kosho ryu kempo there is really only 1 teq: but millions of pricables around this...
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