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    This is a question for someone who has more of a grasp of the japanese language.

    The term "keiho" is in reference to a form or pttern.
    Is the correct japanese for keiho this, 型法 or like this, 型方?
    what does the additional kanji do to the meaning of the word?

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    Hi I am from the BKKU in the UK. We have a club in Japan and the instructor there may be able to help you if you would like to drop him a mail.

    this is a link to his site

    http://www.bkku.com/sendai/training.htm

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    Default Re: Help With Japanese Translation

    The first character in each is kata or kei.

    法 - law
    方 - direction

    Both pronounced ho, hoo, hou depending on dictionary.

    Or do you mean

    heihou ( 兵法 : へいほう )
    1. art of war
    2. strategy
    3. tactics
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    the word I'm looking for is keiho.
    what I'm asking is, is the kanji like this 型法 or like this 型方?
    Also, how is the definition of keiho different from kata?

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    That must be very old reading. None of my dictionaries have this kanji or meaning. Keiho is listed as criminal law or an alarm.

    An article and his book mention Mitose's use of keiho are:

    http://www.usadojo.com/martial-arts-...ki-no-kata.htm

    In ancient times, according to James Masayoshi Mitose, the term that was actually used in regard to the division of form training in the martial arts was Keiho. From this term comes the complete understanding of proper Kata training. Kei is the formal pronunciation of the Kanji normally called Kata, while Ho is the term for law, principle, or way. Thus Keiho means the law of form, the principle of style, or the way of pattern. But this still leaves us with a 1ess than complete understanding.

    First what we really need is the complete definition of Ho, which is properly defined as 'water go', in that the root radical is Mizu or Sui, which means 'water', while the right part of the word is Kyo or Ko, meaning 'move', 'leave', or 'go'. Ho gives the meaning that we should be following the law of nature, which in life is best symbolized by flow. The elements of nature; wind, water, and fire, all flow. None of those elements have a set form, but rather are formless. While air and water, along with earth, can accept the shape of any container, they are all basically formless until called upon to accept a form. Thus when you look at Keiho it literally means 'the form of flow' or better yet, 'the form of formlessness'.

    http://www.tracyskarate.com/History/.../mstbooks2.htm

    Furthermore a person does not need a partner, he does not need long practice periods. There are two ways to practice Kenpo. One way is KEIHO or Kata form. It could be practiced as a sport or exercise by yourself or in a group. The other way is JITSUTE (real combat) to be practiced with a partner for purely self-defense
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    I became curious about the term after reading it in Mitose's book.
    I'm not so sure I trust 100% what Bill Durbin says, he has been known to make things up to fill in the blanks.

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    Default Re: Help With Japanese Translation

    this could be the kanji for keiho
    形法

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    Is there anything in Kata no Michi?
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    Default Re: Help With Japanese Translation

    Quote Originally Posted by gakusei
    Is there anything in Kata no Michi?
    what book is this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcatbonz
    what book is this?
    By Bruce Juchnik. Has all the kata in Kosho. Not all are practiced. I think there are over 100 in there will some history. I was just looking something up a few weeks ago but can't seem to find it right now.
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