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    Can we actually learn from other people's mistakes or is it human nature to disagree and have to find out for ourselves the hard way.
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    Its easy to identify flaws, but harder to identify the root flaw. A bad example would be that if both you and the person you are watching have bad posture when doing a form, you can spend all day picking out the results of the bad posture but never identify bad posture as the root cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad
    Can we actually learn from other people's mistakes or is it human nature to disagree and have to find out for ourselves the hard way.
    I beleive for this we need to give some introspection to the idea of "finding out ourselves." When we probe further into different ideas are we really probing or was the answer inside us all along and we are probing to appease ourselves? From our persective an event could be a mistake in that persons life, from another it could be a turning point for success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad
    Can we actually learn from other people's mistakes or is it human nature to disagree and have to find out for ourselves the hard way.
    Yes.

    Depends on how open minded we are. I've found that I sometimes have an uncanny ability not to learn from any mistakes- theirs or mine!

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    In a perfect world I would say Yes we can.. but I know not of this world.

    Every person's circumstance is their own.. we can be 'Mindful' as we go through life of similarities we may come across, and hopefully if we come across an issue that rings familiar, hesitate and choose wisely.

    When it comes to Reality.. how many have watched our own kids or other's kids go into something such as a marriage etc.. and they Never listen ~!

    Everyone has to make their own mistakes and if we're lucky.. learn Something from them.

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    Also.. Pain is generally the deterent to repeating a mistake.. Physical pain and/or Emotional pain.. We human's really are hard-headed creatures and unless we experience something unpleasant ourselves.. we don't get the message.

    Gee that's hot, let's stick our finger in the fire and do it again.. you broke my heart.. but I don't mind.. here abuse me some more.. Yeah they are Out there .. but let's hope we aren't part of that crowd.. Masochists are curious types.
    So in my humble opinion.. Gotta learn the hard way.

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    I know if there is a hard way to learn someting I usually have to learn from it that way instead of taking the easier path.
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    Now that we have a lot more members I decided to bring this thread back to the forefront.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad View Post
    Can we actually learn from other people's mistakes or is it human nature to disagree and have to find out for ourselves the hard way.
    My answer is YES, to both!
    Yes, we CAN (and should) learn from every mistake / failure from ourselves and others.
    Yes, it's human nature that we Usually don't and have to live it for ourselves.

    Myself? I'd like to be able to learn from every mistake AND success, my own and others. I'd like to learn from them and make positive changes in myself in regard to them.
    That's the ideal. Now.....to make it the standard practice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad View Post
    Can we actually learn from other people's mistakes or is it human nature to disagree and have to find out for ourselves the hard way.
    I'd have to say both. There is a saying,that the older person that can make good good desisions learned from making a lot of bad ones first. Sadly,of course,some people never learn. One must have an objective,willing mindset and the ability to say (at least to oneself) "huh,I might be wrong about that",or,"maybe there's more to learn." Once we become a "know it all" we become unteachable and unreasoning and the next instruction is harsh experiance (lost relationships,lost freedoms,lost finances, positions,or even life). A little something I picked up from many bad choices. Good idea putting up these older posts. -Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertk View Post
    I'd have to say both. There is a saying,that the older person that can make good good desisions learned from making a lot of bad ones first.
    Oops. Only supposed to be one "good" in that line. Speaking of mistakes... - Bob

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    the probablity of learning from it depends on:

    did you notice that person's mistake,

    or

    are they telling you about it.
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    There have been some great points and perspectives. First of all Rob this is a great question.

    How do we learn? Some learn by thinking, some learn by doing, and some learn by feeling.

    You tell the way people learn just by watching your students in class. The thinkers ask a lot of questions, the doers, do; the feelers are the ones who go AAWWWHHH when they get it.

    Now this should apply to other aspects of their daily life as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad View Post
    Can we actually learn from other people's mistakes or is it human nature to disagree and have to find out for ourselves the hard way.

    It depends upon the type of person you are. For instance, both Napoleon and Bismark noted they preferred to learn from others mistakes and especially history because it showed successes and failures on the part of many others under manifold conditions.
    "By perseverance, study, and eternal desire, any man can become great," Gen. George S. Patton Jr. Commanding Officer U.S. Third Army

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