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    Question any help would be appriciated

    I am excedingly good about techniqe memorazation and understanding mechanics but I always have struggled with forms. Can I get some feed back of some tools I could use to increase form retention and fluidity.
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    I'm the opposite.
    Just do them everyday. When I first learn them I sometimes write them down to help me remember them. Once my body gets used to them, it just seems to flow.
    You can also think of them as a series of techniques. You are not going to do anything you don't do in techniques.
    My instructor says, that Mr. Parker used to say "slow to learn, slow to forget" Just do them over and over and your body will remember

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    What are your forms but a series of techniques and basics/modified basics? The main component of kata outside of this is your "flow", which is like the mortar between the bricks of technique, and encompases much of how you perform the kata. Practice, and practice a lot. There's no substitute for practice. If you have problem sections which are hindering your performance, break the kata down into segments and work that problem spot--along with one or two preceeding and following techniques--over and over until it's not a problem anymore. You might also want to experiment with different performance methods, such as going through the forms very slowly, slowly with isometric tension, focusing primarily on speed, etc. Mixing it up can help keep the forms fresh. Always remember to visualize an opponent and focus on the targets you are hitting on that opponent. It can take a while to develop this level of visualization and focus, but it will get easier with time and practice.

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    thankyou that was quite informative my sensei is so good at forms even when he go's slow it's still hard to follow ,and his gracefullness is overwhelming because I feel like frankenstein when I'm practicing kata but I know that it will come with time and practice.thank you for your time.
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    Default Re: any help would be appriciated

    Sing a song (outloud or in your head) or hum a tune while doing kata until you can do the kata whilst doing so, then do it without the tune and you should find that the kata is "installed" and flows more and has a natural rhythm to it. It sounds goony but it works for me. I find Johnny Cash, Cold Play and Bloc Party work well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaderkenpo View Post
    thankyou that was quite informative my sensei is so good at forms even when he go's slow it's still hard to follow ,and his gracefullness is overwhelming because I feel like frankenstein when I'm practicing kata but I know that it will come with time and practice.thank you for your time.
    Don't fret!
    There was a white belt in our class awkward as all get out. Now he's a blue belt and moves really well. There are still rough edges, but the improvement is amazing.

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    Default Re: any help would be appriciated

    Greetings.

    Practicing the applications with someone will help you get the "feel" for where in space you should move... like practicing techniques.

    Do it piece by piece. It is a wonderful exercise to extract the applications of a form and piece them together with partners. Of course done slowly at first... very slowly. Use your partners as a protractor and ruler is used to get correct angles and straight, prescise lines.

    One note: Always remember that a form is executed in a way that the movements are ideally and maximally effective for your specific anatomical geometry. So when you do it yourself, make use of the angles that are maximally effective and efficient for your particular frame.

    I can give specific arguments to prove these points and additional information if requested.

    Hope that helps.

    Enjoy!!

    Juan M. Mercado

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    I'm very new to Kenpo but have studied in other styles. When I came up to a new form, technique, or movement I would go slow through the technique, breaking each part down and learn what each defense/attack/movement was meant to do. I carried a notebook to class and after each session, I would jot down all my notes and make my stupid drawings that I could probably only understand. If I still had questions, I would talk with my instructor (thank god he was patient). You could try getting the footwork down and then adding the upper-body movements to it. Another thing to remember on forms (I don't know if this applies to Kenpo forms) but on Chaun Fa (USSD) forms, most -- at least to the blue belt level -- ended where they started. Just some thoughts.

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