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    You see so many organizations and 10th degree black belts now. What makes a person a true 10th degree black belt? Can you just slap 10 stripes on a belt and say now I am a new 10th degree? I have seen many organizations that have done this and the person looks like junk. Before Mr. Parker past away there were not any other 10th degree black belts. Mr. Palanzo was supposed to be the first 8th degree black belt, but Mr. Parker passed a few weeks before he would test Mr. Palanzo.

    To me Mr. Palanzo is among one of the trueist 10th degree out there. Any other thought from the peanut gallery? LOL.
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    Personally, I would never put on a 10th. The first generation seniors that have currently a 10th that have had a promotion how I feel is done the right way has my respect. The promotion much like Mr. Wedlake here should be done by petitions of many signatures brought forth by their peers and seniors. This is to acknowledge the rank not by just going from 6-10 or something like that. I remember when the petition came to our school for Planas' 9th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfarnsworth View Post
    Personally, I would never put on a 10th. The first generation seniors that have currently a 10th that have had a promotion how I feel is done the right way has my respect. The promotion much like Mr. Wedlake here should be done by petitions of many signatures brought forth by their peers and seniors. This is to acknowledge the rank not by just going from 6-10 or something like that. I remember when the petition came to our school for Planas' 9th.
    Is that how Wedlake is being promoted in October? I heard he was going to 9th, but did not know how or who was promoting him.

    I've been to a few seminars. He is a great, soft-spoken teacher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerkarate View Post
    You see so many organizations and 10th degree black belts now. What makes a person a true 10th degree black belt? Can you just slap 10 stripes on a belt and say now I am a new 10th degree? I have seen many organizations that have done this and the person looks like junk. Before Mr. Parker past away there were not any other 10th degree black belts. Mr. Palanzo was supposed to be the first 8th degree black belt, but Mr. Parker passed a few weeks before he would test Mr. Palanzo.

    To me Mr. Palanzo is among one of the trueist 10th degree out there. Any other thought from the peanut gallery? LOL.
    There actually was one person promoted to 8th degree by Parker, Elvis.
    Quality outweighs quantity every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad View Post
    There actually was one person promoted to 8th degree by Parker, Elvis.
    Passing on the Legacy
    Kenpo Karate presents a rich legacy in helping many realize the promise of the self defense martial arts while reflecting the very best of our profession. For his long years of accomplishments and responsible leadership, Joe Palanzo stands among the central contributors in the evolving history of Kenpo Karate in America.
    Joe Palanzo began his association with the legendary Ed Parker as a student in 1965 and never wavered in his commitment to the principles of the great master. Palanzo's dedication resulted in achieving, along with six contemporaries, the seventh degree black belt in Kenpo under Parker and the vice presidency of the International Kenpo Karate Association (IKKA). While the other six individuals eventually separated from IKKA and Mr. Parker, Joe Palanzo went on to operate an Ed Parker Kenpo Karate Studio franchise during 1970-1990. His dedication to his students led to producing his own Kenpo black belts and promoting the IKKA National Instructor Camps. In a July 1979 Black Belt Magazine article Ed Parker referenced Joe Palanzo among his three protégés (Larry Tatum and Tom Kelly were the others) with whom he "shared the full scope of his knowledge."
    Eleven years following the article's publication, Ed Parker made the decision to set Joe Palanzo apart from all high ranking Kenpoists. In a private conversation at the 1990 IKKA National Instructor Camp held in Baltimore, Maryland, Parker informed Palanzo of his decision to "bump him up" to eighth degree. Parker expressed his intention to confer the eighth degree during the premier showing of "The Perfect Weapon," a Kenpo movie, at the premier in Hawaii. Parker considered Palanzo's loyalty and friendship, as well as his consistent support of Parker's teaching philosophy, as deserving of the promotion. In an aside, Parker stated "Joe, you'll be the first. It will be historic." The conversation was made public during the business meeting held during the camp's last day when Parker, responding to the question, "Have you ever promoted anyone to eighth?" -- replied -- "No, Joe will be my first.” This is confirmed by Joe Breidenstein, Dennis Tosten, and several others who witnessed the exchange.
    Ed Parker's untimely death a few weeks later left a significant void in the Kenpo community. This also led to many self-proclaimed Kenpo masters and others who wrongfully claimed to be former students of Parker. The IKKA began to move in a different direction from the Parker-Palanzo principles. This eventuated in the establishment of the Worldwide Kenpo Karate Association (WKKA), which promoted Joe Palanzo to eighth. Joe Palanzo would later become the first tenth degree after Parker's passing.

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    Thats a mighty fine cut and paste job but what are you trying to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad View Post
    Thats a mighty fine cut and paste job but what are you trying to say.
    LOL. Mr. Parker had said that Mr. Palanzo would be his first 8th degree black belt.
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    Regarding Mr. Wedlake that is about right. I will be attending this seminar and from what my instructor told me this is how it was done. I'll be sure to post and send pics of the event.

    Quote Originally Posted by jfarnsworth View Post
    Personally, I would never put on a 10th. The first generation seniors that have currently a 10th that have had a promotion how I feel is done the right way has my respect. The promotion much like Mr. Wedlake here should be done by petitions of many signatures brought forth by their peers and seniors. This is to acknowledge the rank not by just going from 6-10 or something like that. I remember when the petition came to our school for Planas' 9th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerkarate View Post
    LOL. Mr. Parker had said that Mr. Palanzo would be his first 8th degree black belt.
    But it is well documented that Elvis recieved his 8th.

    Now there is either some form of miscommunication on the WKKA site or some facts are being omitted because History changes as times go on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad View Post
    But it is well documented that Elvis recieved his 8th.

    Now there is either some form of miscommunication on the WKKA site or some facts are being omitted because History changes as times go on.
    I knew that Elvis recieved his 8th, I just found this little article to be interesting.
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    Website/Association propaganda always favors itself in a very bright light, and in that bit you posted from the WKKA website it looks like History had been re-written or portions of the orginal converstaion were omitted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad View Post
    Website/Association propaganda always favors itself in a very bright light, and in that bit you posted from the WKKA website it looks like History had been re-written or portions of the orginal converstaion were omitted.
    Well than I will admit I am wrong about that.
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    Didn't Mr. Parker grant 'political' belts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin6 View Post
    Regarding Mr. Wedlake that is about right. I will be attending this seminar and from what my instructor told me this is how it was done. I'll be sure to post and send pics of the event.
    Please do, for the rest of us who can't make it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerkarate View Post
    Well than I will admit I am wrong about that.
    I think Rob was talking about your own personal opinion on the subject.

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    I will. It will be happening on the weekend of October 6 & 7.
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    Please do, for the rest of us who can't make it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin6 View Post
    I will. It will be happening on the weekend of October 6 & 7.
    That will be quite the experience.
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    I look forward to it. From what I was told it's been put together very fast. The list of instructors are:

    Mr. Lee Wedlake
    Mr. Steve White
    Mr. Zach Whitson
    Ms. Dian Tanaka-Whitson

    It will be taking place at the NECKF studio in Fitchburg, MA (Dr. Len Brassard's Studio). I'll be sure to update everyone after this event.

    Here is a link to the flyer.

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    That will be quite the experience.
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    Sorry,

    Here is the link:

    http://www.neckf.com/events/camp06.pdf

    Quote Originally Posted by ronin6 View Post
    I look forward to it. From what I was told it's been put together very fast. The list of instructors are:

    Mr. Lee Wedlake
    Mr. Steve White
    Mr. Zach Whitson
    Ms. Dian Tanaka-Whitson

    It will be taking place at the NECKF studio in Fitchburg, MA (Dr. Len Brassard's Studio). I'll be sure to update everyone after this event.

    Here is a link to the flyer.

    Regards

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    "Fear is the true opiate of combat."

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    I haven't really read anything that said what it takes be a 10th degree bb.

    And I would not like to just hear "time"
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