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    Does anyone have any good tips for practicing a double knife edge kick???

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    Are you talking about off of the same leg? Like kick, rechamber, and kick again? Or are you meaning a flying sidekick?

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    What ever kick you are doing, remember that muscle memory is very important. one tip I give students to help hone the ability to make the knife edge of the foot come out naturally is to constantly practice putting the foot into that position when doing other things like watching TV or reading a book.
    Quality outweighs quantity every time.

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    It's better to kick low and effectively than high for the sake of it.

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    Two kicks simultaneously.

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    A jumping or flying side kick can only be done with practice and more practice. If you need to do this jump off of the front leg, twist in the air and don't forget to tuck the bottom leg. That's the best I can give you in written form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christina05
    Two kicks simultaneously.
    I take it you're speaking of airborne combo's. They look nice and flashy, but I question the effectivess of such a maneuver in "real life." The execution requires good leg strength. So do your squats!
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    I also questioned the effectiveness of the kick in a real life situation, and after really thinking about it I don't think I would use it but hey if the curriculum calls for it we got to learn it right.

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    There's always a difference between real life (saving your backside) and your curriculum. However, maybe sometime if some obstacles are in your way you just may need to jump over them. Just a thought.


    Well now that I read your thread on MT. I believe you are asking about executing a scissors kick. I will search the internet to see if anyone has posted anything on Hee Il Cho performing a scissors kick.

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    A scissor kick take-down is awesome if you can pull it off. Cung Le http://www.cungle.com/cungle/index.html can do it flawlessly. I watched him in a Pride fight take down a guy 3 times in a row with it. He's hella-fast.

    I personally like to lead in to it by executing a rear crossover to close the gap between me and the uke and build momentum. This also helps position my rear leg for the upcoming "scissoring" motion. When I close the gap I also grab the uke's forward shoulder with my forward hand to gain better control and to use them as a brace. I vault out of the crossover bringing my forward leg up, back, and into the lower torso of the uke (like executing a hook kick really) while my rear leg comes in above the back of the uke's knee creating the "scissor" motion (opposing forces) By maintaining control of the uke's shoulder I can help control the uke's fall as well which is a bonus.
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    Hi Christina05, you got some good advice about this double kick on MT.

    1. Don't

    2. If you've gotta - the TKD crowd do these a lot, so may have some good tips for you.

    At least you are looking at the practicality of what you are doing. Keep doing that, and look after your body - these kicks can twist you up if you aren't careful. 18 months of TKD and no common sense when i was 19 have given me a really dodgy back for the last few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Crippler
    A scissor kick take-down is awesome if you can pull it off.
    I don't believe we are talking about the same kick. A "scissors kick" is if you have 2 attackers; say flanked to the sides. You jump up and execute 2 kicks in opposite directions.

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    Speaking of the basic knife edge kick. If you do it above shin level, it probably really isn't all that useful. Further, there's a really good probability that the knife edge kick is not good for you, anatomically, and I'm relatively certain that a flying set of double knife edge kicks is setting your feet, ankles, and the lesser bones of the tibia and fibula up for some very nasty happenings.

    And lest we forget, the results of repeated anatomically incorrect impact on the hips.

    Just some thoughts...

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    Last edited by sigung86; 07-27-2006 at 12:44 PM. Reason: Added a final thought on hips

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfarnsworth
    I don't believe we are talking about the same kick. A "scissors kick" is if you have 2 attackers; say flanked to the sides. You jump up and execute 2 kicks in opposite directions.
    Nope. I would never do that.
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    This the kick you are talking about?

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    I finally figured it out someone explained it to me as in terms of a russian split kick , I don't know exactly what that means but I will find out. thanks for all your help guys

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    If it is in the curriculum it is in the curriculum. Learn it and better your self from learning it. Just look at all the different body mechanics that go into executing the kick. Each one broke down on its own and in short sequences will help you understand more about your own body's limitations and it will also help you understand key fundamental sequences that are inherint in all motion. Don't look at it as learning a useless kick, look at it as a chance to learn a whole lot of neat new little things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katsudo_karate
    This the kick you are talking about?

    That's the one I was talking about.

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