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    Here are 3 reasons why martial artists should compete:

    First, it give the martial artistsa a purpose and goals for improvement. A person who trains hard is like a baseball player who practices hard but never leaves the bench during a game.

    Second. Competition is fun for most youngsters. This gives them the opportunity to win on an individual basis, which enables them to take full credit when they succeed and also take responsibility if they do not. these are very valuable lessons for anyone. This also helps them in learning how to set and fulfill goals.

    Third, most competitors develop a sense of comraderie withtheir team mates, coaches, and fellow competitiors.


    Tournament competition can be useful to improve skills, it should be fun and winning is not the bottom.
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    Good points. I think Karate in general is good for kids over team sports because no one has to "sit on the bench." They all get to participate equally.
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    I am thinking of fleshing this out some more to submit to the KenpoTalk Ezine. Let me know if you think it owuld be worth the time.
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    I think tournaments are a good idea to do. It let's the individual get an understanding of where their skills might be. Plus seeing people that just smoke everyone also gives an idea of "Wow, I want to move like so and so".

    I haven't competed in a tournament in many years. I just don't have the time nor the gumtion to go anymore.

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    I think they have value and add a lot of things to a kid's program. I think in general it becomes a problem when more of your training is geared towards impractical "tourney tricks" then good solid MA (Kenpo) tech and form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter
    I think they have value and add a lot of things to a kid's program. I think in general it becomes a problem when more of your training is geared towards impractical "tourney tricks" then good solid MA (Kenpo) tech and form.


    you see a lot of the jymnastics in the martial arts today.. it looks cool and kudos to those that can do it.. but imo it takes away form or art, but in other respects i think that it adds to our art..
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    I think in general it becomes a problem when more of your training is geared towards impractical "tourney tricks

    couldn't agree with you more on that one. I competed in a few tournaments for forms only, I figured the ring was a better place to fight in...Not to say sparrig in your class is a bad thing, because Prof Alfaro
    let us go at it pretty good then lol...

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    Overall, I think tournaments have more pros then cons.

    But the cons are growing more and more....

    (1) Jr Black Belts judging adults (particularly intermediate and up)
    (2) Technique divisions being won by people who leap frog over a knife attack and then counter with a jump spinning outer crescent kick to the attacker (ah ya.....like that would work)
    (3) Point fighting matches that make contact to the head a foul......talk about unrealistic
    (4) Grand championships being won by people who tear their uniforms off like they are The Incredible Hulk or Hulk Hogan, and then proceed by doing flashy gymnastics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seabrook
    Overall, I think tournaments have more pros then cons.

    But the cons are growing more and more....

    (1) Jr Black Belts judging adults (particularly intermediate and up)
    (2) Technique divisions being won by people who leap frog over a knife attack and then counter with a jump spinning outer crescent kick to the attacker (ah ya.....like that would work)
    (3) Point fighting matches that make contact to the head a foul......talk about unrealistic
    (4) Grand championships being won by people who tear their uniforms off like they are The Incredible Hulk or Hulk Hogan, and then proceed by doing flashy gymnastics.
    It sounds like you went to a competition recently and were unhappy with the results and/or what you saw? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seabrook
    Overall, I think tournaments have more pros then cons.

    But the cons are growing more and more....

    (1) Jr Black Belts judging adults (particularly intermediate and up)
    (2) Technique divisions being won by people who leap frog over a knife attack and then counter with a jump spinning outer crescent kick to the attacker (ah ya.....like that would work)
    (3) Point fighting matches that make contact to the head a foul......talk about unrealistic
    (4) Grand championships being won by people who tear their uniforms off like they are The Incredible Hulk or Hulk Hogan, and then proceed by doing flashy gymnastics.
    That's too funny. No points to the head or groin. Get real. And yes, some people do weird techniques. I don't get it.

    I saw a guy once who made this big production of removing his gi jacket before doing a kata. Before he could start, the judges stopped him and asked him to put it back on. Too funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amylong
    I saw a guy once who made this big production of removing his gi jacket before doing a kata. Before he could start, the judges stopped him and asked him to put it back on. Too funny.
    If I were one of the judges I would have let him keep it off then given him the lowest score possible. Just for GP of course but that's just me.

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    Actually there is a tradional Okinawn Kata that is doen with the top off. It is a very slow moving, deep breathing form and every time I have seen it performed it is done with the top off. I guess that is why I have never seen any women performing it in tournaments, but I keep looking.
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    Competitions are very scarce around here. Used to be many of them decades back. All you see now are WTF tourney's, and even then maybe only two of them a year. You have to go to Austin, San Antonio, or the Valley to find something.

    No one wants to work for free, it's a big undertaking, and costly to travel out. But I'm sure my students would compete, given the chance.

    Since we're having our one year anniversary, we're having an In School tourney just for our people to show off to their community, and to have fun!
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