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    Do you think this is a practical maneuver? Why?

    Can you do it??
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    I have no idea what you are talking about.

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    Default Re: Back, head & chest dive

    I agree.


    I was wondering if you meant some type of roll fall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfarnsworth
    I agree.


    I was wondering if you meant some type of roll fall?
    I can take a nose dive, if that counts.

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    Whoops! The story goes ...

    I turned to run and tripped over the curb ... expertly converting my fall into a forward shoulder roll, I stepped off line and kicked the attacker with my right roundhouse kick.

    Or, I was pushed from behind and tripped, turning my fall into a roll.

    etc.

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    "Infinite Insights Into Kenpo Book 2: Physical Analyzation 1" on page 136.

    Back, head and chest dive - This is a straight dive to the rear. It is not a common dive and, therefore, requires practice. To execute it, spring back on to your hands, keep you head and back arched, and time your action carefully as you roll on your chest, stomach, hips, thighs, knees, and feet.

    From a standing position (a) bend your knees, squat, and spring backward; reach out with your arms to break your fall. Arch your head and back, and again bend your knees. As your hands touch the ground straighten your body (b) as your weight begins to shift over the center point, again arch your head and back. Now begin to roll on your chest, then stomach, then hips, thights, knees, and back to your feet.

    If you have the book it also gives a drawn example of the maneuver. If not, hopefully the excerpt will help you visualize what we would be discussing.
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    This maneuvre is very, very dangerous, and not recommended for anyone that is not capable of doing a backhandspring. This is also known as an Arabian Dive Roll.
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    You'd never see me try it in a ga-zillion years! I wanted yoose-guys-es view on da' maneuver though. I don't think it's practical or all that useful...but I'm biased because I'm a big goober that couldn't do it anyway! LOL. I just don't see any real use for it. But some of you more agile types might like it though. Just wanted your point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Crippler
    "Infinite Insights Into Kenpo Book 2: Physical Analyzation 1" on page 136.

    Back, head and chest dive - This is a straight dive to the rear. It is not a common dive and, therefore, requires practice. To execute it, spring back on to your hands, keep you head and back arched, and time your action carefully as you roll on your chest, stomach, hips, thighs, knees, and feet.

    From a standing position (a) bend your knees, squat, and spring backward; reach out with your arms to break your fall. Arch your head and back, and again bend your knees. As your hands touch the ground straighten your body (b) as your weight begins to shift over the center point, again arch your head and back. Now begin to roll on your chest, then stomach, then hips, thights, knees, and back to your feet.
    You know, I'm trying to picture SGM Parker doing this, and well, it just isn't happening.

    I'm trying to find any vaguely use of this that a backward breakfall and a backward roll wouldn't be more practical in. Anyone have ANY suggestions?

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    Default Re: Back, head & chest dive

    The only time I would even think about it would be against a mid height swung weapon coming from behind me. But if I was to this maneuvre I would probably opt out and do the back handspring instead since it would give me more distance and no time on the ground.
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    Default Re: Back, head & chest dive

    The only time I would consider doing such a thing would be if I suddenly became someone else.

    Someone who is limber and bouncy and daring.

    That, is not me.

    I'm a little bouncy, but not the kind of bouncy that spring into the air back onto my hands.

    More the kind of bouncy that's kind of cheerful.

    That's the only way I would consider doing such a funky move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad
    The only time I would even think about it would be against a mid height swung weapon coming from behind me.
    I think I'd take my chances getting hit.

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    Default Re: Back, head & chest dive

    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Crippler
    Back, head and chest dive - This is a straight dive to the rear. It is not a common dive and, therefore, requires practice. To execute it, spring back on to your hands, keep you head and back arched, and time your action carefully as you roll on your chest, stomach, hips, thighs, knees, and feet.

    From a standing position (a) bend your knees, squat, and spring backward; reach out with your arms to break your fall. Arch your head and back, and again bend your knees. As your hands touch the ground straighten your body (b) as your weight begins to shift over the center point, again arch your head and back. Now begin to roll on your chest, then stomach, then hips, thights, knees, and back to your feet.
    I think I am envisaging this correctly - I used to be able to do this 20 odd years ago in my breakdancing good 'ol-days. A few of the 'moves' I learned back then are usefull in defence now, but not many. I dont know about this one either. How will you ever get into a position that your body can set up the inertia required to do the flip. If you have enough time to do that, you have got other options available on retreat or attack.

    I have seen this a couple of times on my sons Power Rangers videos so I suppose it must be realistic then eh!!

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    Default Re: Back, head & chest dive

    Me no bend that way.

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    Default Re: Back, head & chest dive

    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Crippler
    Do you think this is a practical maneuver? Why?

    Can you do it??
    I spend all my energy trying to stay upright, and now you want me to fall down - on purpose? Please!
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    ^^

    Yeah what he said!!!
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