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    Default How Do You Hold It?

    Since everyone seems to be interested in knives- what kind of grip do you prefer? What are its advantages? Disadvantages? Tactical uses?

    The basic grips (feel free to expand):

    saber- like you would a sword. Fingers angled and blade extends from thumb side.

    ice pick- hand like a fist, blade extends from bottom.

    hammer- hand like a fist, blade extends from top, or thumb side.

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    Honestly, I pick the grip for the situation...I can go back anf forth between them, switch hands in nessecary...so I suppose I haven't a preference
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    Default Re: How Do You Hold It?

    Saber for distance work, icepick for in close.

    I use the Pekiti method of holding the blade in saber, gripping with the bottom three fingers and thumb, index finger loose. I go to more of a hammer grip for close range thrusting and punyo strikes.

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    ice pick - I enjoy working my tehcniques w/ knives and most often i go inverted.
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    Icepick/with blade angled back toward the forearm. It's easier to conceal it that way so they don't see it coming. What they initially might mistake as a punch and try to block, becomes a slash to their forearm or wrist.
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    I prefer the ice pick. My blade preference is a bowie or a bolo (bowie with a beer gut) with a large "false" edge on the spine. I like the blade edge facing out. I can angle the knife back toward my arm for "blocks", which goes to his arm, not his weapon. ALso can hook it back after a cut to grab and pull him in. Can cut going in or out, can stab any direction, and can use butt end or my forearms and elbows better.

    Saber grip would be my second choice.A lot more dexterity and better reach. But this is the easiest grip to be disarmed or just loose your weapon. In a knife fight, I figure my hands will be sweating, and there's allways the blood to contend with. Things might get a little slick. Saber is the least solid grip.

    Hammer grip- I'm almost embarassed to say this, but I tend to cut myself to ribbons with this one. And just try doing an inward elbow strike with a knife griped like this!*^>!!! Maybe I could convince him I'm insane and he'd leave me alone!

    Any of you use Karambits? I bought a couple of cheap ones to play with. I'm not impressed enough yet to spend the bucks for a good one. On the other hand, I used one on a roofing job and it was a pretty handy tool. Lot to be said for practicing to use what you have on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedan
    Any of you use Karambits? I bought a couple of cheap ones to play with. I'm not impressed enough yet to spend the bucks for a good one.
    I've decided to get a few training Karambits and find out what all the hype is about.
    What have I learned from this???

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    Do I have the mind of a twelve year old boy, or does the title of this thread just seem a little...
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    yes it does...

    ...my response was going to be..."in my hand..."

    But I saw the path were it would lead me to say something not G rated >_o*
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    I hold it like an ice pick because a little birdie told me it was a stronger grip and I would not brake my thumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cameypsaromatis
    Do I have the mind of a twelve year old boy, or does the title of this thread just seem a little...
    Bad girl!

    ....but...yeah it does. People would expect that from me..you on the other hand, should be ashamed of yourself! LOL. just kidding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerkarate
    I hold it like an ice pick because a little birdie told me it was a stronger grip and I would not brake my thumb.
    How do any of the other grips "break your thumb?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameypsaromatis
    Do I have the mind of a twelve year old boy, or does the title of this thread just seem a little...
    Quote Originally Posted by Miyu
    yes it does...
    ...my response was going to be..."in my hand..."
    But I saw the path were it would lead me to say something not G rated >_o*
    I like the way Kenpo women think! Where were you all when I was dating? More importantly, were you armed? And (taking a huge risk that the thread will really go downhill now), how did you train to use your knife if you were?

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    Well what year were you still dating? I could tell you where I was then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miyu
    Well what year were you still dating? I could tell you where I was then
    '84 was the last. Back then, I was still using the saber grip, and I thought that when a person used the ice pick grip it was the mark of an inexperienced fighter. I also thought that the only good fighting knife was a double edged blade. I've learned a lot about knives since then. But all I've learned about women is that while you can change your knife grip to a less sensitive form and still be effective, you'll never be sensitive enough for women- but you'd best not change your grip! (That's why I allways ask if they're armed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindside
    How do any of the other grips "break your thumb?"

    Lamont
    I would not think that they would. I was just told to do it one way so....thats the only way I do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedan
    '84 was the last.
    I was 4...so, um I was playing with my care bears
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    I was biting my tongue for a while on saying something about this trhead, but I couldn't hold it anymore. I was 10 in '84... still fist fighting w/ my brother and lemme see... was I armed? I might have tried to defend myself by stabbing him w/ a barbie doll or two --- the grip was still ICEPICK.
    Quote Originally Posted by thedan
    I like the way Kenpo women think! Where were you all when I was dating? More importantly, were you armed? And (taking a huge risk that the thread will really go downhill now), how did you train to use your knife if you were?
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    IN 1984 I was 16 and usually had a handshake like grip on my knife.
    Quality outweighs quantity every time.

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    Darn I am the youngin on this forum, I was born in 84'
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