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    Default Re: Is it possible to fix a shattered vase? (Is it possible to unite Kenpo?)

    I don't believe so. There is not a real chance of that. Too much greed and ego involved.

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    Default Re: Is it possible to fix a shattered vase? (Is it possible to unite Kenpo?)

    I'm going to go with no.
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    Default Re: Is it possible to fix a shattered vase? (Is it possible to unite Kenpo?)

    Somehow there seems to be this "myth" that "Kenpo" was unified throughout its existence. It never has been, and never will be. "Kenpo" was fractured from day one as the many branches in the Chow Lineage ( and there were others) moved to the mainland. This included Mr. Parker, who was only one branch of the tree. The arrogance of people in the Parker Lineage is they think "Kenpo" revolves around their perspective and understanding. To follow this "united" line of thinking in the Parker Lineage alone one would have to ignore the existence of the Tracy's and Tracy Kenpo and there are many more legitimate branches that came out of Hawaii.
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    Default Re: Is it possible to fix a shattered vase? (Is it possible to unite Kenpo?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Somehow there seems to be this "myth" that "Kenpo" was unified throughout its existence. It never has been, and never will be. "Kenpo" was fractured from day one as the many branches in the Chow Lineage ( and there were others) moved to the mainland. This included Mr. Parker, who was only one branch of the tree. The arrogance of people in the Parker Lineage is they think "Kenpo" revolves around their perspective and understanding. To follow this "united" line of thinking in the Parker Lineage alone one would have to ignore the existence of the Tracy's and Tracy Kenpo and there are many more legitimate branches that came out of Hawaii.
    Well Said Doc! I would only add that many things in the history of the human race are caused by or the result of our own arrogance!
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    Default Re: Is it possible to fix a shattered vase? (Is it possible to unite Kenpo?)

    To what end? I don't see an upside to the different factions (for want of a better term) coming together to unite, even if they would. What benefits would it really bring? Would the tenths (leaving aside any questions of legitimacy) have to elect one of their own to be the top dog? Most importantly, how would all of the factions uniting impact the white belt just starting out? How would putting aside the politics concretely improve the training that students receive?

    Frankly, because of the above questions I can't see that "kenpo" could be united or should be.

    Mark

    The reasons for the "kenpo" in quotes is that it is such a wide term that it is nearly meaningless as a descriptor at this point. As Doc says, what makes up "your kenpo". Frankly, as long as each individual definition of "you kenpo" is valid then any idea of unity is impossible.
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