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    Where do your toes point when doing a back kick? Down or to the side?
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    I point my toes down.
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    I believe we are instructed to point ours down as much as possible.
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    Down
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    was anybody else taught to curl their foot and use the knife edge of the foot (pinky side) to make impact? naturally that keeps the toes down, but sooooo much more....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miyu
    Where do your toes point when doing a back kick? Down or to the side?
    Heel to the sky toes to the ground always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete
    was anybody else taught to curl their foot and use the knife edge of the foot (pinky side) to make impact? naturally that keeps the toes down, but sooooo much more....

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    I have seen poeple do knife edge back kicks. Personally I do not.
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    Down dooby doo down down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerkarate
    Heel to the sky toes to the ground always.
    Exactly.

    The back kick is one of Kenpo's deadliest kicks if done correctly. Interestingly, a lot of people struggle with it, and are calling their "rear side kicks" back kicks.
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    Well the heel is up and the foot is down.. but the toes are pointed forward as much as possible just like a front heel kick you toes are pulled up as far as possible to not only protect the toes but to lock the ankle into a solid striking tool.

    ..... now that I think about it... does Kenpo use a front heel kick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBunny
    Well the heel is up and the foot is down.. but the toes are pointed forward as much as possible just like a front heel kick you toes are pulled up as far as possible to not only protect the toes but to lock the ankle into a solid striking tool.

    ..... now that I think about it... does Kenpo use a front heel kick?
    I try to use my heel for contact on front kicks......but thats just a personal thing. I can get a bit more penetration.

    as for the back kick.....toes down for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seabrook
    Exactly.

    The back kick is one of Kenpo's deadliest kicks if done correctly. Interestingly, a lot of people struggle with it, and are calling their "rear side kicks" back kicks.
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    Sometimes called a mule kick too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBunny
    ..... now that I think about it... does Kenpo use a front heel kick?
    Depends on the target and flexibility of the one executing the kick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBunny
    ..... now that I think about it... does Kenpo use a front heel kick?
    Good for busting knees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seabrook
    Exactly.

    The back kick is one of Kenpo's deadliest kicks if done correctly. Interestingly, a lot of people struggle with it, and are calling their "rear side kicks" back kicks.
    I totally Agree, funny enough we were working the back kick in class tonight, in my experience I find that when teaching students a back kick they dont tend to fuse there thighs together when chambering,or in the commencement of the early stages of the kick,( after the chamber) students also tend to roll their knee out as well, greating a nice little triangle ouch!

    I use the term knee to the floor tuck and thrust,

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    Quote Originally Posted by gakusei
    Good for busting knees.
    Well yea I know what they are for

    I just didnt know if Kenpo specificly taught the differant uses of front heel and front thrust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seabrook
    Exactly.

    The back kick is one of Kenpo's deadliest kicks if done correctly. Interestingly, a lot of people struggle with it, and are calling their "rear side kicks" back kicks.
    Spinning back kicks or back kicks off the front foot are my favorite weapon to use. The reason why people are having problems with back kicks is because they are trying to kick too high. Back kicks are meant to be a groin shot. The higher you kick the more your hip joint can not take the pressure or grinding so your hip flips over into a side kick.
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    Topic of Toes..

    Toes down.. foot 'bladed'

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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerkarate
    The reason why people are having problems with back kicks is because they are trying to kick too high. Back kicks are meant to be a groin shot. The higher you kick the more your hip joint can not take the pressure or grinding so your hip flips over into a side kick.
    I was just going to say something like that. Except I'd say rear kicks are meant to go as high as waist level. After that, do a side kick.

    I know one instructor who teaches them all as side kicks (the side rear kick) as mentioned. I've asked him about it, but he hasn't ever answered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amylong
    I was just going to say something like that. Except I'd say rear kicks are meant to go as high as waist level. After that, do a side kick.

    I know one instructor who teaches them all as side kicks (the side rear kick) as mentioned. I've asked him about it, but he hasn't ever answered.

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