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    anybody know how much belts cost? and the tests you do to recieve it? and am i right in saying delayed sword is for blocking the right hand and sword of destruction blocking left? now can i block either hand with say delayed sword or no.. thank you
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    Default Re: Just Started Training? Any Tips for Newbies.

    The cost for belts and tests will depend on individual schools. My school doesn't charge for anything except the black belt test. As for the two techniques, thats the way I was taught. Delayed Sword from a right punch or right lapel grab & Sword Of Destruction from a left punch. I was told from Mr. LoVarco, save the "what if's" until AFTER you are black belt. Do the techniques the way the were meant. Kenpo has MORE than enough techniques to do something from the other side.


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    hey, beginer question, how u wash your uniform? just plain soap and water? i got some patches on my uniform so im not sure what is the proper way to clean with out messing up any patches and having the color go on uniform. Thanks everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinvipers View Post
    anybody know how much belts cost? and the tests you do to recieve it? and am i right in saying delayed sword is for blocking the right hand and sword of destruction blocking left? now can i block either hand with say delayed sword or no.. thank you
    Hi Latinvipers,
    Fees for Belt Test vary from school to school.
    At my school there is no fee until BB and
    that may be waived if you are in an additional program.

    Of course you can block/strike either side with Delayed Sword,
    you would have to execute it on the opposite side for
    the left grab (but I wouldn't during your test ).

    This brings up a once bitter point with me ,
    American Kenpo is basically designed for a right handed person
    and me (being left handed) had to adapt right from the start.

    So when I was just trying to learning to
    (borrowing a wise mans previously used phrase)
    "walk and chew gum at the same time",
    it was more like I was trying to
    "walk backwards and chew gum at the same time"

    Now almost 4 years later, I'm comfortable on either side,
    but favor my right side............ go figure

    GOOD LUCK ON YOUR TEST!!!
    What have I learned from this???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenpo-Sloth View Post
    Hi Latinvipers,
    Fees for Belt Test vary from school to school.
    At my school there is no fee until BB and
    that may be waived if you are in an additional program.

    Of course you can block/strike either side with Delayed Sword,
    you would have to execute it on the opposite side for
    the left grab (but I wouldn't during your test ).

    This brings up a once bitter point with me ,
    American Kenpo is basically designed for a right handed person
    and me (being left handed) had to adapt right from the start.

    So when I was just trying to learning to
    (borrowing a wise mans previously used phrase)
    "walk and chew gum at the same time",
    it was more like I was trying to
    "walk backwards and chew gum at the same time"

    Now almost 4 years later, I'm comfortable on either side,
    but favor my right side............ go figure

    GOOD LUCK ON YOUR TEST!!!
    thanks alot the info helped alot, but what about uniforms what do you use to wash it? i dont want the colors on the patches to go off on the uniform, so im not sure what is good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinvipers View Post
    thanks alot the info helped alot, but what about uniforms what do you use to wash it? i dont want the colors on the patches to go off on the uniform, so im not sure what is good
    One last word of advice..............
    Focus on your material,
    practice your basics every day,
    practice a technique hundreds
    and hundreds of times
    then...........
    practice it some more

    I had only been training for a few months
    and asked a question (on the schools forum)
    about feeling awkward during the execution
    of a certain technique and a Mr. Alan Cheung
    (who was visiting my schools forum)
    answer was something like this:
    "Once you have executed the technique 5 thousand times it won't feel awkward anymore"
    Here is his website:
    http://www.cheungskenpo.com/

    I never forgot that answer because it was a
    wake-up call for me on practicing techniques.

    Forget about your uniform,
    rank, promotion, fees, elapsed time,
    let your sensei worry about that stuff.
    FOCUS on your BASICS,
    nothing else matters!!

    As for your uniform,
    wash it like anything else.
    What have I learned from this???

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    i like that, it wont feel akward after 5 thousand times, which basicly says practice makes perfect
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinvipers View Post
    i like that, it wont feel akward after 5 thousand times, which basicly says practice makes perfect
    yes and no

    GOOD, consistent, mindful practice...with attention to quality in the details makes perfect...
    over TIME.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinvipers View Post
    thanks alot the info helped alot, but what about uniforms what do you use to wash it? i dont want the colors on the patches to go off on the uniform, so im not sure what is good
    For cotton gis wash in cold and drip dry, for blends like alot of beginners get, it doesn't really matter. Most patches are blends and their dyes shouldn't run. Any standard detergent should be fine.

    Oh, and some schools have traditions against washing your belt, because apparently your knowledge is contained in the belt and washing it washes away your knowlege. (And they call kenpo a science.... )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindside View Post

    Oh, and some schools have traditions against washing your belt, because apparently your knowledge is contained in the belt and washing it washes away your knowlege. (And they call kenpo a science.... )

    Lamont
    I tried that once when I was a purple belt because it was too stiff.........I was totally brain dead the next time I went to class

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    Quote Originally Posted by execkenpo View Post
    I tried that once when I was a purple belt because it was too stiff.........I was totally brain dead the next time I went to class
    Oh yeah I NEVER wash my belts... that's pretty much become like a superstition for me! I actually like when you can see smudge marks and spots and dirt on it... but I like my uniforms as pristine and unwrinkled as I can get them... go figure.

    Yeah as far as practicing, my first karate teacher never believed in Practice Makes Perfect, he used to always say "Practice Makes Automatic." Meaning whether you train a technique properly or improperly, practicing that way will make it feel good regardless. So make sure you are doing it right first, ask a lot of questions of your instructor, and then practice it as much as you can.
    "Your kung fu's no good..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindside View Post
    For cotton gis wash in cold and drip dry, for blends like alot of beginners get, it doesn't really matter. Most patches are blends and their dyes shouldn't run. Any standard detergent should be fine.

    Oh, and some schools have traditions against washing your belt, because apparently your knowledge is contained in the belt and washing it washes away your knowlege. (And they call kenpo a science.... )

    Lamont
    thanks good thing i didn't wash my belt yet, the only patches i have is the kenpo karate patch with the warrior and the scholar, and the ying yang patch with the dragon and tiger, along with the us flag patch, do you know if those are safe to wash with detergents? thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by execkenpo View Post
    I tried that once when I was a purple belt because it was too stiff.........I was totally brain dead the next time I went to class
    LOL good one lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinvipers View Post
    thanks good thing i didn't wash my belt yet, the only patches i have is the kenpo karate patch with the warrior and the scholar, and the ying yang patch with the dragon and tiger, along with the us flag patch, do you know if those are safe to wash with detergents? thank you
    I have no idea what quality patches you have, sorry. But most patches are synthetic and most synthetics don't bleed much. Besides, you are going to have to wash that gi sometime. Cold water is generally the best.

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    If you keep washing the dirt out
    of your belt, it will never turn black.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother John View Post
    yes and no

    GOOD, consistent, mindful practice...with attention to quality in the details makes perfect...
    over TIME.

    Your Brother
    John
    Agreed,
    but when learning something new,
    I have always tried to get the crude motions
    down (by practicing a few hundred times)
    and then continue to refine the technique or form
    as I learn more in class.

    After I learn the pattern/motion (without
    having to think about each move) is when I
    ask questions and try to refine each part.
    I found that to be much easier then worrying
    about many details and perfect form
    right from the start.

    I might practice Long 3 (200 times this week),
    but I guarantee that 6 months from now I'll learn
    something else about the form that will change the
    way I execute it.

    Does that mean I shouldn't practice it a thousand
    times over the next 6 months?

    Should I hassle my sensei (more than I already do )
    by trying to find out the details I haven't learned yet?

    I have heard many sayings like:
    "Perfect practice makes Perfect",
    but I've never seen perfect, from anybody.

    Do you think my progressive approach to
    practicing is wrong because I focus on crude
    motion ignoring some of the details at first and
    then slowly refine?

    Sir,
    I always enjoy your posts so I'm
    genuinely interested in your reply.
    What have I learned from this???

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    Default Re: Just Started Training? Any Tips for Newbies.

    Your questions are most welcome here, but you might consider asking some of these of your instructor, or other members of your school. A lot of the questions you have are going to be specific to your school itself, and so we won't be able to give you much help with those.

    What branch of kenpo are you studying? Who is your instructor/where?

    Given that, some of these questions might be a little more easy to answer on the forum. Just a thought.

    Welcome to kenpo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenpo-Owl View Post
    Your questions are most welcome here, but you might consider asking some of these of your instructor, or other members of your school. A lot of the questions you have are going to be specific to your school itself, and so we won't be able to give you much help with those.

    What branch of kenpo are you studying? Who is your instructor/where?

    Given that, some of these questions might be a little more easy to answer on the forum. Just a thought.

    Welcome to kenpo!
    My profile contains that information
    and a previous post details my curriculum.

    It was a simple question asking someone's opinion
    about my "personal" style of practicing which
    appears to contradict some statements and sayings.

    NOTE:
    The saying I posted
    "Perfect practice makes Perfect"
    is often said at my school.

    Does this help?
    What have I learned from this???

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    Quote Originally Posted by domino3700 View Post
    Oh yeah I NEVER wash my belts... that's pretty much become like a superstition for me! I actually like when you can see smudge marks and spots and dirt on it... but I like my uniforms as pristine and unwrinkled as I can get them... go figure.

    Yeah as far as practicing, my first karate teacher never believed in Practice Makes Perfect, he used to always say "Practice Makes Automatic." Meaning whether you train a technique properly or improperly, practicing that way will make it feel good regardless. So make sure you are doing it right first, ask a lot of questions of your instructor, and then practice it as much as you can.
    My teacher likes to say "perfect practice makes perfect."

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    Quote Originally Posted by domino3700 View Post
    So make sure you are doing it right first, ask a lot of questions of your instructor, and then practice it as much as you can.
    I think thats a very tall order.
    For Example: Lets take Short Form 1
    I assure you the first time I practiced Short 1,
    it was not correct.
    I was so busy worrying about my blocks, chamber
    position, and stances that I couldn't get the pattern down.
    So I decided to break it down, tuck my hands away and
    practice just the leg movements many, many times.
    As I continued to practice additional parts of the Form
    were added until it was complete.
    Then I focused on the details.
    I practiced this Form (many, many times)
    knowing it was not perfect, but bringing it
    together in a piece by piece progressively
    better and better state.

    I would not call this "Perfect Practice"
    maybe just the opposite, so lets hear
    how you "make sure your doing it right first
    and then practice".
    What have I learned from this???

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    I'm not trying to offend anyone,
    I'm just questioning one of the
    many sayings we learn and repeat
    like it was law.

    opinions??
    What have I learned from this???

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