Re: Techniques in the order that they are taught.

[wolfenmoon]

Hi all,

I am new here and was wondering if you are/could be taught the techniques for the different belts in catergories? ie; grabs & tackles, pushes, punches etc, as well as in a certain order that they are normally taught.

The reason Im asking is that I was wondering if this would be an alternative way of learning the techniques.

many thanks

Craig

[Rob Broad]

Anything is possible, but there really is a method to the madness when you look at the original 24 technique per belt curriculum

[Sentinel]

Practicing techniques in categories is a great way to review what you know, since it organizes the book techniques in your mind and shows you how many options you really have for a given attack. As far as learning them in groups, I wouldn't recommend it. My first thought is that you'll want to have an array of techniques to be equipped with before you get to green belt. And as Rob said, there is a method to the madness in kenpo curriculums, including the points at which you learn certain basics (everything in your techniques is a basic or a modified basic) and how techniques build on each other as their complexity increases, among other things. In addition, I think it would get kinda boring only working side headlocks and left hand lapel grabs for an entire belt level. That's just my 2 coins.

[SifuDangeRuss]

Um...yeah...what they said.

(See? This is why Sentinal is my favorite tool) lol

[Dianhsuhe]

Some systems (like Kara-Ho Kempo) group them together for this reason, ie. Grab techniques, club techniques, ground techniques, etc. We teach 1-5's for each category then later on there are 2 other sets (6-10's &11-15's) wherein the technques get more complex.

Some of these groupings start at the Purple/Blue belt level.

Cheers! and welcome to KT!!

[John M. La Tourrette]

I was wondering if you are/could be taught the techniques for the different belts in catergories? ie; grabs & tackles, pushes, punches etc, as well as in a certain order that they are normally taught.

Well,

The 6th grade could be taught in kindergarden, but they'd probably miss the point.

Or the kindergarden class could be taugh in Grad school but all the students would quit.

Dr. John M. La Tourrette

[wolfenmoon]

Thanks for clarifying this for me, your opinions are greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Craig

[SifuDangeRuss]

Running the risk of sounding trite, I'll once again point to the Alphabet of Motion model.

Just as when we learn to read and write and speak, we begin with learning short, simple words and gradually begin to string those simple words into short sentences.

If we only learned language, exclusively by synonyms...for example learning every single word for walk. (Walk, stride, step, perambulate, stroll, traipse, tramp, pace, march, etc) It would make communication difficult, because although we know every permutation of one idea, we haven't explored different ideas. Knowing every permutation of the word, "walk" is really cool, but it won't help you order a cheeseburger when you are hungry. While increasing our verbal lexicon may improve our communication skills in the long run, initially it is far more important that we grasp a variety of basic words, as opposed to collecting synonyms of the same word.

Learning every single defense for a lapel grab is useful, but it doesn't help you much when you are suddenly and unexpectedly grabbed from behind or kicked.

[John M. La Tourrette]

Learning every single defense for a lapel grab is useful, but it doesn't help you much when you are suddenly and unexpectedly grabbed from behind or kicked.

sort of like the fox and the rabbit story, right.

They were sitting in a pub drinking a beer and the fox was bragging about the hundreds of different ways he had of outwitting the hounds.

Just then the hounds break through the door, and that damn rabbit took off like a streak. He only knew of one way to survive the hounds and that was to run like a bat-out-of-hell. He got away.

But the fox, under stress couldn't remember one of those hundreds of various ways to out wit the hounds. The killed him.

That little isomorphic metaphor works real well with kids, and also with adults.

How did it work for this thread?

Dr. John M. La Tourrette