All the EPAK forms after Long 3 are referred to as Long Forms.
i see alot of ppl refering to the forms above 3 as "long".. i thought there were long and short 1,2, and 3.. and no more shorts.. is it just habit to keep refering to later forms as Long?
All the EPAK forms after Long 3 are referred to as Long Forms.
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There is actually a short form 5 as well, so with form four, people say 'long form 4'
After that, I always say 'form 5', 'form 6', etc.
There's no point in saying long is there's no shortl
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I learned a "short 4". I always referred the others as Parker Form 5, 6, etc...
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Our system has both a short form 4 and short form 5...as Rob said, they were created for tournaments (you only do each technique once instead of doing it on both sides).
under what lineage did you learn short 4?Originally Posted by Celtic_Crippler
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I asked my instructor this and was told they are all long after Form 3.
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I've always referred to the forms past three as "Long Four", etc., just to keep with the previous long/short format. Even though any short forms past three are obscure at best, since the forms from four on are in and of themselves "long", I felt it was appropriate to designate them that way. This practice seems to vary from school to school and teacher to teacher, so really any way you choose to say it should be fine.
Well, I was under Tatum at the time, but basically my instructor and I were farting around and he said that there was a short form 4, so we pulled out the written description and just sort of figured it out.
I don't even know if it's 'right'.
I've never seen anyone do a short 5.
Put it on tape. It'd be cool to see.
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If my memory serves me right I believe that there was a short and long from 1 -6. Like it was already mentioned, I believe those were tournament forms.
What's the difference between the short & the long's?It's easy enough.
Under a previous curriculum. The instructor that developed the curriculum was promoted by Jay T. Will.
I'll take a stab at this one. From my observations most of the short forms execute techniques on only one side whereas the long form version executes the technique on both sides. How'd I do?Originally Posted by jfarnsworth
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I told you it was easy enough. The shorts are only 1 sided techniques whereas the long's are double sided techniques. I don't know how it would fair with a weapons form but empty hand why couldn't there be a short 1-6?
Short 1, Long 1, Short 2 and Long 2 are the Dictionary sets, they are designed to explore the basics. Short 3 and up are the Encyclopedia sets, designed to explore various topics with techniques.
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I don't know that I agree with this. Short one starts with a right inward block, then a left inward block, etc. Both blocks. Same for short two. They are already on both sides. I've never seen any point in doing them on 'both sides' because they already ARE on both sides.
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