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    We train in an American Art, so why do we use the Okinawian/Japanese name "Kenpo/Kempo Karate" ??

    Just wondering??

    What have I learned from this???

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    To acknowledge the deeper roots of our art. The line of instruction came from oriental martial arts. Mr. Parker's innovations, reorganization and creation from that base is what made it "American".

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    Thank you,
    I thought it might be to show respect or recognize the origin, however I thought the Chinese were a major influence in developing "Kenpo Karate" and the name does not reflect Ch'uan Fa or T'ang Te. If the Okinawian's/Japanese translated the names then why don't we?

    I know it's not important, but I think the history is interesting.
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    It's hard to find a martial art from the orient that didn't draw some influence from China and their arts. But specifically the Roots of our American Kenpo came from Mr. Parker's instructor, Prof. Chow. Chow, along with knowing other things, studied Kosho Ryu Kempo from James Mitose. According to what we know (apart from rumor...etc.) This system, Kosho Ryu Kempo, was the key system that Chow taught, though he didn't call it Kosho Ryu anymore, having blended it with Chinese arts Chow began to call what he was teaching Kara-ho Kempo Karate. This is where Mr. Parker studied then. When he came to the US mainland and began to teach he wanted to bring Mr. Chow over so that together they could begin a chain of schools across America...but Chow later changed his mind. Mr. Parker reorganized his knowledge of Kenpo along more scientific/orderly lines and then began to recreate it and coddify the 'principles' that we now know. He also began the process of evolving the art, creating changes in the system to get the results he wanted.

    SO... it's called "Kenpo" because it came from "Kempo", it's called "American" because the form it exists in today didn't happen until after Mr. Parker began changing it here in the USA.

    hope this helps. I may be off a bit in some of the 'facts', but over all....this should help you understand. There were LOTS of things that went into the mix that later became our art, Jujutsu, Chin-Na, Lua....etc. But the main core was from Mr. Parker's instruction in Kempo.

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    You might refer to Mr. Chapel, he's here on this site...I think as "Doc".

    He has a ton more knowledge about this type thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother John
    hope this helps.

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    Yes Sir,
    Thank you

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    Default Re: American Art, Okinawian name??

    There is also an explanation in Infinite Insights Vol. I
    Just because you do something one way, does not mean that everyone else does it that way, or that it is even the correct way.

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    Care to give a brief synopsis Seig??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenpo-Sloth View Post
    Thank you,
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenpo-Sloth View Post
    I thought it might be to show respect or recognize the origin, however I thought the Chinese were a major influence in developing "Kenpo Karate" and the name does not reflect Chuan Fa or Tang Te. If the Okinawa’s/Japanese translated the names then why don't we?

    I know it's not important, but I think the history is interesting.


    Mr. Parker's second book “Secrets of Chinese Karate” was expressly written for the purpose of explaining that history.

    What I found very amusing is that the drawings he used for his stances in that book MORE resembled the Hawaiian Hula stances than they did any Chinese stances.

    And I had it from good resources that Mr. Parker also had help in writing that book.

    ©Dr. John M. La Tourrette


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