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    I stand by the uppercut as a Master Key method of execution. It can become a backfist, a straight punch, or even retract a little to become a hammerfist. Not only can we graft tech's, but we can also graft methods of execution. I really like that concept.
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    The best weapon I have is my palm. It is stronger than an actual punch with a fist.

    I also love, love, love my elbows. An elbow bent at 90 degrees can make it impossible for someone to land a kick or punch without hurting themselves. I never have to throw a punch, I make it difficult for other people to hit me. If someone wants to kick me, I'll let them. I'll turn into the kick with an elbow. It hurts them more than it hurts me.

    The most awkward thing I had to do was learn to tumble and roll. When I started I was about 25 pounds over weight and over six feet tall, with no coordination. I did not want to roll on the floor, or have my body follow my head in a roll. I was uncomfortable doing them the first week or two.

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    Mine is either a reverse punch, round house kick, side kick, or spinning back kick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amylong View Post
    What do you find to be your most natural weapon?
    Glock 17, without question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carol Kaur View Post
    Glock 17, without question.


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    I like spinning back elbows. Especially if I'm fighting someone who is crowding me. They aren't nice, but I only throw them when I have no room. Beautiful things they are

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    If a person is really close, I like to fake a sneeze so that I drive my very large forehead into the bridge of their nose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad View Post
    If a person is really close, I like to fake a sneeze so that I drive my very large forehead into the bridge of their nose.
    HAHAHA! Im glad to see you're untilizing all your natural weapons.
    Just think... as a kid getting teased on the playground, you thought your oversized forehead was a misfortune. I guess theres a bright side to everything.
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    I remember a story from years ago about an instructor who put one of his blue belts in some sort of front choke hold.

    The instructor said, "What would you do?"

    So he spit in his eye, then did some sort of technique.

    (This guy was a bouncer at a bar.)

    That was his best natural weapon.


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    My most natural weapon is probably my back fist. I have very fast back fists, and I am able to adjust the hit mid-strike if needed (e.g., catch and trap an arm that comes up to block, etc.).

    Other than that, my best weapons are probably either: (a) my ability to run really darn fast :-) , (b) my ability to talk my way out of really ugly situations... haha.

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    Uppercuts, backfist, reverse punch, slicing elbows I'm okay at the kicks but at 5'7" well you know.

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    Actually, I don't think about the weapon, itself. I tend to think more in terms of the application as it happens. Usually, the weapon will take care of itself after some length of training. Although, I have to say that the more basic and clean the application, the more basic, clean, and thus, effective the weapon is. It just kind of follows ...

    Fist - Good for body shots and head shots, but to be really comfortable, they require special training. Most people, who have never been in an altercation can't believe how much hitting with the classical fist can cause pain to the user.

    Palm - Such a wonderful weapon. In it's form, it can be a sword, a palm heel, a palm slap, a modified back knuckle type of strike (using the backs of the knuckles for soft tissue or delicate bone area strikes, a minor sword (hitting soft tissue with the thumb side). Extending or retracting the fingers in various modes creates a great tool for poking soft tissue strikes, ripping ...

    Claw - A great weapon for smash and slash, but one that can get you, quickly, into legal difficulties

    Front snap kick - good for quick in and out. Easy to use, but without training, it is much slower than hands in concert with stance change and positional change.

    Round House kick - not as powerful. More like a boxers jab and a great tool to set up with.

    Rear kick - Thrusting rear is the king of kicks. It is the most powerful natural weapon you have that can be implemented without lots of setup or use of other "physics" to make it effective. Totally and immediately devastating when set up correctly. Combined with spinning, or cross stepping into the attacker ... What can I say? LOL!

    Side kick - Anatomically very hard for your hips, and ankles if implemented badly. It is the basic cause of hip replacement and perrenial ankle weakness in old martial artists. LOL! You can cause yourself more damage than your opponent if you try to take it too high, or don't have it aligned. It is one weapon that I don't even really bother to teach for anything more than knee level attack.

    Elbows - <My best Marine DI Nasal impression here> "Yore ehlbow is yore frieund". A master of elbow is truly a frightening creature. But - useful elbow depends on mastering certain other factors such as fear of getting in close, and ability to move around your attacker's motions, and being able to do so while setting up a good base to attack from.

    Just a quick topical analysis of weaponry. But ... As I said, for facilitation, it normally depends on what I'm doing, where I'm going, how I'm getting there, and not something that I give a lot of conscious thought to.

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    I do ride horses, yet the horse stance was the most uncomfortable things, ever! (Yes, I haven't made it very far) I spent at least a month cooking dinner, doing my homework, doing my hair, makeup, everything in a horse stance until it didn't hurt anymore.

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    most natural?

    Lower body: knees, stomps, and Muay Thai roundhouse kick

    Upper Body: elbows, hammerfists, handswords, palm strikes, and eye-gouges

    There aren't many targets (if any) that can't be attacked effectively with one of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad View Post
    If a person is really close, I like to fake a sneeze so that I drive my very large forehead into the bridge of their nose.
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    Crippler,
    Get into to Muay Thai lol, I like the knees and Elbows alot , but i love my straight right its a power shot and i've done alot of damage with it, and i can do a good elbow instead or hit em with a right,

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    So, in other words, they're all good?

    The most natural one is the one that gets the job done in that moment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigung86 View Post
    Actually, I don't think about the weapon, itself. I tend to think more in terms of the application as it happens. Usually, the weapon will take care of itself after some length of training. Although, I have to say that the more basic and clean the application, the more basic, clean, and thus, effective the weapon is. It just kind of follows ...

    Fist - Good for body shots and head shots, but to be really comfortable, they require special training. Most people, who have never been in an altercation can't believe how much hitting with the classical fist can cause pain to the user.

    Palm - Such a wonderful weapon. In it's form, it can be a sword, a palm heel, a palm slap, a modified back knuckle type of strike (using the backs of the knuckles for soft tissue or delicate bone area strikes, a minor sword (hitting soft tissue with the thumb side). Extending or retracting the fingers in various modes creates a great tool for poking soft tissue strikes, ripping ...

    Claw - A great weapon for smash and slash, but one that can get you, quickly, into legal difficulties

    Front snap kick - good for quick in and out. Easy to use, but without training, it is much slower than hands in concert with stance change and positional change.

    Round House kick - not as powerful. More like a boxers jab and a great tool to set up with.

    Rear kick - Thrusting rear is the king of kicks. It is the most powerful natural weapon you have that can be implemented without lots of setup or use of other "physics" to make it effective. Totally and immediately devastating when set up correctly. Combined with spinning, or cross stepping into the attacker ... What can I say? LOL!

    Side kick - Anatomically very hard for your hips, and ankles if implemented badly. It is the basic cause of hip replacement and perrenial ankle weakness in old martial artists. LOL! You can cause yourself more damage than your opponent if you try to take it too high, or don't have it aligned. It is one weapon that I don't even really bother to teach for anything more than knee level attack.

    Elbows - <My best Marine DI Nasal impression here> "Yore ehlbow is yore frieund". A master of elbow is truly a frightening creature. But - useful elbow depends on mastering certain other factors such as fear of getting in close, and ability to move around your attacker's motions, and being able to do so while setting up a good base to attack from.

    Just a quick topical analysis of weaponry. But ... As I said, for facilitation, it normally depends on what I'm doing, where I'm going, how I'm getting there, and not something that I give a lot of conscious thought to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson View Post
    Dear Kenpo brothers and sisters:

    The answer to this question is quite easy. The most natural weapon is the mind followed by a close second with the tongue.
    So like, do you stick your tounge in the attackers ear to distract them? What's a good target for the tounge??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Crippler View Post
    So like, do you stick your tounge in the attackers ear to distract them? What's a good target for the tounge??

    Crip -- YOU SLAY ME! I can think of some good targets for the tongue, but they aren't really appropriate to say on a forum of this type.

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    I think if you can talk your way out of a situation that's great, and kenpo is definatley 50% mental, BUT at what point do stop talking?

    I'll play "devils advocate." Would you forgo the opportunity to strike first risking injury or death by giving someone that has initially made their intention to harm you or a loved one clear? Do you give a threat a chance to "get one in" on you? Keep in mind, action is faster than reaction. If you allow them to sucker punch you it could all be over in seconds. "He who hesitates, meditates in the horizontal position."-SGM Parker.
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    Indeed.

    I believe the principle you are refering to is "Environmental Awareness."

    "Environmental Awareness" is more involved than just paying attention to your immediate surroundings. It involves making note of the people in it, their general condition, their body language, and facial expressions. All of this can clue you in to how someone will behave. There's much more of course, but further disscussion on this topic would be more appropriate in another thread.
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