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    Question What's become of martial arts movies

    One thing that I don't understand is that martial art movies are turning into romance movies. Ever since I started Kenpo, I have been into the action movies, but have unexpectedly found them to have the mushy gooshy romance theme rather than an action theme!?!?!?

    But I didn't post to rat out any movies, I just wanted to know if anybody had any suggestions for a good martial art/action films not rated R for rediculous?

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    What's the matter? Don't you like girls? LOL. Just ribbin' ya. What's the last "good" movie you saw? Have you seen "Ong Bok" or "Azumi'1 or 2?" Those are some good imports. Did you not like "Unleashed?"
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    Yes, we want emotionless killing machines that wander through the film killing everything that moves. If they do have emotion it better be anger, sadness, and a grim determination. If there is boinking it better be with some worthless half-naked floozy that just represents a release for our hero(ine) 'cause we wouldn't want him/her to have a weakness for the villain to exploit.



    So avoid most high style Chinese MA flicks (Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, House of Flying Daggers) and focus on Hollywood made movies that feature Jet Li and Jackie Chan, neither of whom seem to be able to get a kiss from their leading ladies, much less any serious hanky-panky. (You know something is weird when Jet Li plays "Romeo" and winds up having a happy but completely platonic relationship with his Juliet.)

    Why would we ever want something as primal as "love" be a driving force in a movie, thats chick stuff! We want "Dirty Harry" type movies, where our hero grunts through the talking parts, and whose only attachments are filial or paternal.
    We want action without plot!
    Violence without reason!
    Blood!
    Gore!
    Big kicks!
    Blood!
    Swords!
    Throat rippings!
    Big comebacks!
    Blood!
    Broken necks!
    Blood!
    Blood!
    Blood!
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    Default Re: What's become of martial arts movies

    Quote Originally Posted by Blindside
    We want action without plot!
    Violence without reason!
    Blood!
    Gore!
    Big kicks!
    Blood!
    Swords!
    Throat rippings!
    Big comebacks!
    Blood!
    Broken necks!
    Blood!
    Blood!
    Blood!
    Uuuuuhhhhhhmmmmm......think you feel a little strongly about that.
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    I think we are stuck with the love intrest in the movies. From what I can recall I think one of the only ones that I have seen in recent history without a love interest would be Hero. It's been a while but I believe it was more for love of country type of thing. Outside of that I think it's just something that the film makers think they need, kind of a necessary ingredient...
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    You can check out the Zatoichi and Lone Wolf and Cub series. Mostly sword work but good. Sub-titled but how much to action heroes talk anyway.

    Since you are studying Speakman DVDs, how about Perfect Weapon.
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    I forgot Master of the Flying Guillotine. It's kind of a Chinese cinema cult classic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin6
    I forgot Master of the Flying Guillotine. It's kind of a Chinese cinema cult classic.
    You're durn tootin'! But it's corny as all get out! LOL.

    Originally Posted by Blindside
    We want action without plot!

    Then watch "Walker, Texas Ranger." ROFL.
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    I like Jet Li movies. The romance part isn't heavy.

    What was that movie about the different timelines? I think it's called 'The One'.

    That was a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amylong
    I like Jet Li movies. The romance part isn't heavy.

    What was that movie about the different timelines? I think it's called 'The One'.

    That was a good one.

    --Amy
    Check out Once Upon a Time in China 1, 2, 3. I think they go up to 6. Jet li is only in the first three and I think the last one. The Jet Li flick to see coming out this week is Fearless. Check out the trailers:

    http://www.fearlessthemovie.com/

    http://www.apple.com/trailers/rogue_...etlisfearless/
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    Quote Originally Posted by amylong
    I like Jet Li movies. The romance part isn't heavy.

    What was that movie about the different timelines? I think it's called 'The One'.

    That was a good one.

    --Amy
    ..alternate realities...AWESOME movie. I loved it. But, his wife played a major role in the plot and story line so there was ROMANCE in it....... and a puppy too! ROFL.
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    FYI. Fearless is awesome. I was in Honk Kong this summer and was able to watch it on DVD. It did not have any subtitles, so I'm looking forward to seeing all that was actually said. The fight scenes were amazing and bonecrunching -- kind of like Unleashed meets Hero (on the action scenes, not the plot).

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    FYI 2: The Fearless opening date has moved to Sept. 22 according to yahoo and http://www.jetlisfearless.com/.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Crippler
    Then watch "Walker, Texas Ranger." ROFL.
    That's "Action without Acting".
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    Quote Originally Posted by gardawamtu
    FYI 2: The Fearless opening date has moved to Sept. 22 according to yahoo and http://www.jetlisfearless.com/.
    Thanks for the update. I'm looking forward to seeing this film.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amylong
    I like Jet Li movies. The romance part isn't heavy.

    What was that movie about the different timelines? I think it's called 'The One'.

    That was a good one.

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    That's right. And it was a pretty good film.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindside
    So avoid most high style Chinese MA flicks (Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, House of Flying Daggers)
    I completely agree. They kind of skip realism, which I think makes a movie unbelivable and completely boring to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mord_sith_14
    I completely agree. They kind of skip realism, which I think makes a movie unbelivable and completely boring to watch.
    Actually, I was being sarcastic. People flying around is just about as unrealistic as a lone hero going into a warehouse full of armed thugs and emerging victorious. You have to compare wuxia martial arts flicks to the many comic book movies coming out, the heroes and villians have inhuman powers. Personally, I really appreciate the wuxia style cinema and wish Hollywood would manage to put out something half as interesting.

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    If you people wanna see a good MA film go rent Ong Bak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EndlessRising
    If you people wanna see a good MA film go rent Ong Bak.
    Amen!

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