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    Default Re: Kenpo "travel steps" (footwork)?

    Whatever works. If you hit them "soft" and they're still moving hit them "hard"!

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    OK, I finally asked the Shihan of my school about why I can't seem to find any reference anywhere to these "travel steps" and he said they are unique to our dojo, and were created by his instructor. To recap, our "travel steps" are a way of moving around an opponent while striking.

    I know I've only been training in Kenpo for a VERY short time, and may be speaking in ignorance, but these "travel steps" seem like an unrealistic way to move in an actual street fight. Wondering how footwork and movement is taught at other schools?

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    QUOTE - Wondering how footwork and movement is taught at other schools? - QUOTE

    When I started, if I recall, it went something like this.

    Natural Stance - this is standing naturally.
    Attention Stance - feet together, hands hanging naturally, with palms on the thighs.
    Neutral Bow - This is the point where all hell breaks looks on the internet. "That isn't how we do it."

    It degrades rapidly from there.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Magpie View Post
    OK, I finally asked the Shihan of my school about why I can't seem to find any reference anywhere to these "travel steps" and he said they are unique to our dojo, and were created by his instructor. To recap, our "travel steps" are a way of moving around an opponent while striking.

    I know I've only been training in Kenpo for a VERY short time, and may be speaking in ignorance, but these "travel steps" seem like an unrealistic way to move in an actual street fight. Wondering how footwork and movement is taught at other schools?
    Let me put it this way; Ed Parker didn't do know stinkin travel steps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michaeledward View Post
    Neutral Bow - This is the point where all hell breaks looks on the internet. "That isn't how we do it." It degrades rapidly from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdinca View Post
    That’s actually terminology we used in the system I studied in.

    A hard bow would be a forward bow where the center of gravity is moved back so your weight is evenly distributed on both feet.

    A soft bow is where the rear foot is moved forward and you’re on the ball of the foot. The back knee is bent and the center of gravity as a result is lower but still evenly distributed front to back.

    I believe it’s Tracy terminology.
    I think so too. John La Tourrette, who has studied both the Parker system and the Tracy system, uses this terminology in his books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magpie View Post
    OK, I finally asked the Shihan of my school about why I can't seem to find any reference anywhere to these "travel steps" and he said they are unique to our dojo, and were created by his instructor. To recap, our "travel steps" are a way of moving around an opponent while striking.

    I know I've only been training in Kenpo for a VERY short time, and may be speaking in ignorance, but these "travel steps" seem like an unrealistic way to move in an actual street fight. Wondering how footwork and movement is taught at other schools?
    I am not sure if this pertains to your question, but Bagua teaches methods of footwork designed to encircle an adversary, even ending up in their back and hitting them from that advantageous position. Possibly your particular Kenpo style has been influenced by that art?

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie View Post
    it's not a crossover. I apologize for not being able to describe it properly. I guess one would have to see it on video (which i am not going to post).

    Let's put it this way...what sort of footwork would one use to move around an opponent who is standing still (unrealistic, i know, but remember, this is a drill)?
    front cross-over, setp out.
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    Doesn't sound like your "dojo" is in the Parker Lineage and probably leans more towards Japanese interpretations of "Kempo." I could be wrong but you keep using the word "Kenpo" but we all know the term to be essentially generic without a descriptive modifier. But then, clearly you seem to be intentionally vague, and that will not help you get the information you want. So, give us something to work with or ....... Anyway post a video from the waist down or something if you're trying to keep names out of it. The people here are very knowledgeable, but even they have to have something to work with.
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