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    i know its a speakman school.. but does the second guy oh shielding hammer, at 0:55.. i guess move moreso like we do? he stood out the most to me, out of the ppl in the line.. its a shame about that stall. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by madeku View Post
    i know its a speakman school.. but does the second guy oh shielding hammer, at 0:55.. i guess move moreso like we do? he stood out the most to me, out of the ppl in the line.. its a shame about that stall. lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q17UBJmhgA

    Not anywhere close from my point of view. That's not implying anything bad either. They have their way of moving/executing and we have our way.
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    keeping in mind im only purple. lol i dunno he stood out from the rest to me. so maybe im just seeing the surface ballistics?

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    I can't get the link to work.

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    The link doesn't work for me either.
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    Default Re: does this look familiar

    The link itself doesn't work for me, but if I cut/paste the URL then it works fine. Might try that and see if it helps.
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    I cut and paste. Then it worked.

    That guy is Anto Parsaghian. (I might be spelling his last name wrong.) He's been with Speakman since the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiktok86 View Post
    The link itself doesn't work for me, but if I cut/paste the URL then it works fine. Might try that and see if it helps.
    Thanks, that worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan J. View Post
    Not anywhere close from my point of view. That's not implying anything bad either. They have their way of moving/executing and we have our way.
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    Good answer Mr. Jacobs, and I agree.

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    Same beat timing and bursts....MUCH different motion though. He 'sounds' like AKKI guys but watch it without the sound. Very different in my honest opinion.
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    Yeah, it's a little different. It's good that he was getting his timing in there.
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    i still dont get it.. maybe some day i will.. if it's kenpo.. its either static, mechanical, fluid, or someplace in between.. sloppy or precise, synchonized, ballistic, etc.. but nothing really "specific" to systems.. maybe individuals.. im not good at describing senses.

    im thinkin, itd be a cool idea. if ppl from different kenpo lineages, akks, tatum, tracey, planas, sl4, akki, ikka, etc.. did maybe 5 EPAK techniques (like say below blue belt).. everyone doing the same ones. like in a kata form, one after the other, in different directions.. and everyone could get an idea of how other lineages and individuals moves.. i mean..

    i can watch ppl do forms and it can look nice, but im like "uhh i dunno that" so its hard to get an idea of what their motion is about.. without giving away their own techniques or whatever.

    cos honestly, i cant tell a speakman studnet from a tatum student, or planas.. and apparently ppl from my own system. lol the closest thing (other than going to the camp in vegas lol) was when i saw one of James's clips and i was like "the way he moves seems familiar to me" lol

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    I can't tell who falls under what linage all the time, but, I know AKKI when I hear it/see it. We still do Kenpo. Mr. Mills learned from Parker; yet if you've learned what you're supposed to, you'll move differently from other Kenpo students. I don't mean to say one is better than the other- it's just different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madeku View Post

    im thinkin, itd be a cool idea. if ppl from different kenpo lineages, akks, tatum, tracey, planas, sl4, akki, ikka, etc.. did maybe 5 EPAK techniques (like say below blue belt).. everyone doing the same ones. like in a kata form, one after the other, in different directions.. and everyone could get an idea of how other lineages and individuals moves.. i mean..

    I 'm choosing a specific part of your previous post...
    If you look at Mr. Mills "Speed Clip" ( not the Energy Clip ) you will see Mr. Mills' version of Delayed Sword. I think the Uke is Mr. Jacob. It's fast and a hell of a lot more effective than anything I've seen out there.
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    • madeku, Hi. This is a good question. I think people get hung up on the Karate part of Kenpo. In Karate there is only one way to move ,Kenpo is gaseous always changing with the fight, times, and people that do Kenpo. A beginner wants to move like there Sifu (teacher) for the most part they do. As there understanding grows of the art they see that they move differently. Do to humans having different bodies. Some of us are the same height and weight so we look some what alike but overall we a different.. So in closing my young Kenpo brother familiar yes different always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenpoJuJitsu3 View Post
    Same beat timing and bursts....MUCH different motion though. He 'sounds' like AKKI guys but watch it without the sound. Very different in my honest opinion.
    I have found it to be different on both ends. He does have timing, but, not so AKKI much. His motion is also good, but, not quite how we move.
    I'm wondering if Mr. Speakman is combining his previous karate style with Kenpo for his 5.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikael151 View Post
    I have found it to be different on both ends. He does have timing, but, not so AKKI much. His motion is also good, but, not quite how we move.
    I'm wondering if Mr. Speakman is combining his previous karate style with Kenpo for his 5.0.
    Looks that way having viewed the whole set of 5.0 DVD's...but very little. Most of the stuff looks like "traditional" EPAK (condensed to alleviate repetitious material) + Muay Thai + Grappling + FMA (very little).
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenpoJuJitsu3 View Post
    Looks that way having viewed the whole set of 5.0 DVD's...but very little. Most of the stuff looks like "traditional" EPAK (condensed to alleviate repetitious material) + Muay Thai + Grappling + FMA (very little).
    Speaking of Speakman-your review of the 5.0 stuff on Martial Talk was impressive and in depth.
    Watching the technique line-which was impressive-I saw more Karate than Kenpo if that makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikael151 View Post
    I 'm choosing a specific part of your previous post...
    If you look at Mr. Mills "Speed Clip" ( not the Energy Clip ) you will see Mr. Mills' version of Delayed Sword. I think the Uke is Mr. Jacob. It's fast and a hell of a lot more effective than anything I've seen out there.
    I agree, Mr. Mills has a devastating Delayed Sword! The timing is perfect.

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    It's on there, people. Check it out. It's called "Speed Clip" for a reason. But, if you do find it-you will hear, and I say again HEAR the timing!
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