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    It was common knowledge during the 1978-1981 period that Great Grandmaster Mitose did not physically sign all of the system’s documents. There is no big mystery, there were several reasons, but the predominant one was that he was in prison and getting the documents to him, signed and returned was very difficult. His visiting times were sporadic at best. He was only allowed one four hour visiting period per week. There were many times that his weekly visit was canceled because of disturbances at the prison. (For those that don’t know anything about Folsom Prison, the 1975-1990 period was a period of high inmate violence and as a result the prison was very often locked-down for weeks at a time.)

    Great Grandmaster Mitose gave written permission to Master Juchnik to promote anyone within the system that he felt warranted it. He gave Headmaster Golub permission (and power of attorney I might add) to sign his (Mitose’s) name as necessary on any and all system and organizational documents, including promotional certificates.

    Much of the reason that this was done was so that Juchnik and Golub could work toward Mitose’s eventual parole. They hired an attorney for him and created the International Kosho Shorei Association around him to show the parole board that if he were released he would be a contributing member of society and have a means of supporting himself. (enough said on that)

    All ‘promotions’ within the system could be better characterized as appointments. The appointments were based on martial arts skill and the person’s rank / position with the martial arts at the time; such as if the person was a school owner, an instructor within someone else’s school, or as in the case of Headmaster Golub, if the person had a special skill or talent that the organization could use. Remember, they were in the process of building an organization around James Mitose in a short period of time. They didn’t have years to training students and promote them up through the ranks.

    Promotions / appointments within the system came in the following sequence between 1979-1981 under the International Kosho Shorei Association and Great Grandmaster Mitose;

    1) Bruce Juchnik was appointed as a Master in 1979
    2) Arnold Golub was appointed as the Headmaster in 1979
    3) Ten Teachers were appointed in Sacramento in 1979-1980
    4) Several Teachers were appointed in Chicago in 1980’s
    5) Several Teachers were appointed in San Francisco in 1980’s
    5) Thomas Mitose was recognized as the Grandmaster in 1981 and James Mitose advanced to Great Grandmaster.
    6) Alemany, Arquilla and Sedeño were appointed as Masters in 1981
    7) Arquilla promoted one Teacher and four Assistant Teachers in 1981


    This is the legitimate Kosho Shorei Martial Arts System lineage as it was at the time of Great Grandmaster James Mitose’s death in March 1981.

    Great Grandmaster James Mitose
    Grandmaster Thomas Barro-Mitose
    Headmaster Arnold Golub

    Master Bruce Juchnik
    Master Rick Alemany
    Master Ray Arquilla
    Master Eugene Sedeño

    Teacher Dave Kovar
    Teacher Richard Young
    Teacher Joe Bueno
    Teacher Ray Arquilla (Promoted to Master)
    Teacher Ron Cox
    Teacher Arthur Smith
    Teacher Morton Geivett
    Teacher Nancy Young
    Teacher Debi Arquilla (Williams)
    Teacher Roland Roemer

    Assistant Teacher Fred Wilcox
    Assistant Teacher John Chaffin
    Assistant Teacher Dale Sussdorf
    Assistant Teacher Linda Aja
    Assistant Teacher Jeff Dobler


    Assistant Teachers did not receive any documentation and were appointed by Teachers, I have only listed the ones that I knew of at the schools in Sacramento. I am sure that there were others in San Francisco and Chicago.

    I have not listed any of the Teachers promotions that occurred during the 1980’s outside of the original ten. (Such as the ones that were awarded in San Francisco to Rick Alemany’s group or in Chicago to Roland Roemer’s group, other than Roland Roemer himself, who was one of the original ten.)

    All of these promotions / appointments were given with Great Grandmaster James Mitose’s approval.

    In late 1980 Ray Arquilla was given the task, by Great Grandmaster Mitose, of training what became the only group of students to receive promotions within the system based strictly on the training and the material of the system. In September 1981 the following promotions were made by Master Ray Arquilla, Teacher Dave Kovar and Teacher Debi Arquilla;

    Teacher John Tieman
    Assistant Teacher Tom Jeno
    Assistant Teacher Mike Svilarich
    Assistant Teacher Irma Aguilar
    Assistant Teacher Randy Sedwick


    In March 1981 James Mitose died and Thomas Mitose took over as the leader of the International Kosho Shorei Association and as head of the Kosho Shorei Martial Arts System with the title of Great Grandmaster. There is no dispute here. This is the correct progression of the art as James Mitose wanted it. All of the Masters agree that Thomas Mitose is the legitimate Grand Master and blood-heir of James Mitose’s art.

    At the end of 1981 the International Kosho Shorei Association split. Master Arquilla separated from the association and in 1991 formed the Iron Dragon Kosho Shorei Kenpo Karate System.

    In 1991 the International Kosho Shorei Association split again when Master Bruce Juchnik left the organization and formed the Sei Kosho Shorei Kai and the Kosho Ryu System.

    Master Alemany and Master Sedeño have never been part of the political quagmire of Kosho Shorei. They both support Thomas Mitose, but they also support both Master Arquilla and Master Juchnik in their arts.

    Headmaster Golub is to my knowledge still considered the Headmaster of Kosho Shorei under the leadership of Thomas Mitose, although his name doesn’t appear on Thomas Mitose’s family tree.

    There has never been an investigation into the signatures on the diplomas issued in the 1978-1981 period. As an example, I know for a fact the Master Arquilla’s and Teacher Kovar’s diplomas have never been examined by experts.

    Great Grandmaster Mitose (Thomas) and Master Juchnik have been at odds over who has the legitimate authority to lead the system.

    Master Juchnik was given a letter by James Mitose that gave him unlimited authority to lead the system on his (Mitose’s) behalf. Master Juchnik was given the letter in 1979, before Thomas Mitose was contacted and brought into the system.

    Thomas Mitose was a Kajukenbo 3rd Dan under Joe Halbuna. James Mitose asked Master Juchnik and Headmaster Golub to contact him and try to bring him into the system. Thomas was initially resistant and refused to even visit his father. Eventually he changed whatever thoughts he had and went out to visit him. His first visit to Folsom wasn’t until 1980.

    In early 1981 Thomas Mitose was presented for the first time to the students as the Grandmaster of the system at a meeting conducted at Master Juchnik’s school. He was also identified as the Grandmaster of the system in James Mitose’s 1981 book ‘What is True Self Defense?’.

    In the same book it is written;

    ‘Remember, that to be a Grand Master, you must be born to a Grand Master or be a blood line descendant. Anyone saying that he is a Grand Master, who is not of the blood line, is not speaking the truth.’


    -John Tieman


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    Hi Dave,

    John made a great post.....it was good that he explained some things in detail.

    The only part that i find hard to believe is that Mitose wanted Hanshi Juchnik to contact Thomas Mitose......Hanshi has told the story on different occasions and he says it was his idea to contact him, and James Mitose didnt want him too.

    Aside from all of that.....I guess you just have to study with the guys you think are giving you the goods.

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    Ok, so what does that have to do with the Tracy system?
    Quality outweighs quantity every time.

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    A lot, if you keep up with the tracy system.

    GM Ray Arquilla has promoted GM Al Tracy to the rank of kudan in Kosho Shorei.....I think (this is just my observation) that it is grandmaster Tracy's wish to better connect the teachings with their origins.....and in his opinion, those origins are James Mitose.

    I'm sure Dave Hopper, Dave Simmons, or Pat Munk could give better insight.......but this seems to be the consensus on the SJK board that these fine gentlemen frequent.

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    I find it amazing how Al Tracy's lineage has changed so much since the death of Ed Parker but the techniques, and forms still remain the same.
    Quality outweighs quantity every time.

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    I actually heard the same thing from Hanshi while having a discussion with him back in 97 at a summer camp in Bristol, Rhode Island.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcatbonz
    Hi Dave,

    John made a great post.....it was good that he explained some things in detail.

    The only part that i find hard to believe is that Mitose wanted Hanshi Juchnik to contact Thomas Mitose......Hanshi has told the story on different occasions and he says it was his idea to contact him, and James Mitose didnt want him too.

    Aside from all of that.....I guess you just have to study with the guys you think are giving you the goods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad
    I find it amazing how Al Tracy's lineage has changed so much since the death of Ed Parker but the techniques, and forms still remain the same.
    The Tracy Kenpo System has not really changed that much! My personal belief is Kosho connects or completes the Kenpo History any body that practices Kenpo Karate has roots in Mitose, Chow etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveSimmons
    The Tracy Kenpo System has not really changed that much! My personal belief is Kosho connects or completes the Kenpo History any body that practices Kenpo Karate has roots in Mitose, Chow etc.
    I just find it disturbing that Al Tracy only started to ride the coat tails of Mitose after the death of Parker, Chow and Mitose himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad
    I just find it disturbing that Al Tracy only started to ride the coat tails of Mitose after the death of Parker, Chow and Mitose himself.
    Al Tracy didn't ride the coat tails of Parker etc. He didn't have to claim anything other than lineage to Parker etc. The whole Mitose linage epic is to complete our history. Including the healing arts! Whether one choses this approach is strictly their business. Kenpo Karate is what it is...just checkout the older vid's that are surfacing lately. AK went it's own way nothing wrong with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcatbonz
    GM Ray Arquilla has promoted GM Al Tracy to the rank of kudan in Kosho Shorei.....I think (this is just my observation) that it is grandmaster Tracy's wish to better connect the teachings with their origins.....and in his opinion, those origins are James Mitose..
    So he promoted a guy that didn't study with him to a high rank in a different style?
    Makes perfect sense to me.

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    who said that Al Tracy didn't study with him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcatbonz
    Hi Dave,

    John made a great post.....it was good that he explained some things in detail.

    The only part that i find hard to believe is that Mitose wanted Hanshi Juchnik to contact Thomas Mitose......Hanshi has told the story on different occasions and he says it was his idea to contact him, and James Mitose didnt want him too.

    Aside from all of that.....I guess you just have to study with the guys you think are giving you the goods.
    From what I understand, Mitose wanted Thomas to head the system, but he wanted the Masters to train him. Instead, Thomas chose to be in charge without actually learning anything.

    And you are right. That is what it all comes down to in the end.
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    What is interesting is that, in the end, I suspect the true "roots" will never be found. Too many agendas, both political and personal.

    Having seen first hand how people can come and go from family trees, can disappear and simply be said to be, "Never heard of", it leads one to suspect most anything that is being brought out as valid, or, in actuallity, historically correct, or even significant.

    I think the philosophy that says, "go where you feel you are getting the goods" is the best way to go. The rest is political tripe that won't really matter in the end. After all, apparently, the best editor creates the truest history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigung86 View Post
    After all, apparently, the best editor creates the truest history.
    I think that you hit the nail on the head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sigung86 View Post
    What is interesting is that, in the end, I suspect the true "roots" will never be found. Too many agendas, both political and personal.

    Having seen first hand how people can come and go from family trees, can disappear and simply be said to be, "Never heard of", it leads one to suspect most anything that is being brought out as valid, or, in actuallity, historically correct, or even significant.

    I think the philosophy that says, "go where you feel you are getting the goods" is the best way to go. The rest is political tripe that won't really matter in the end. After all, apparently, the best editor creates the truest history.

    So very well put Mr. Farmer.
    Quality outweighs quantity every time.

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    Thank you Mr. Broad, and Takai. I can't claim total originality on it, however. Orson Scott Card, one of my favorite SciFi authors said it much better:

    "All the stories are fictions. What matters is which fiction you believe."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad View Post
    I find it amazing how Al Tracy's lineage has changed so much since the death of Ed Parker but the techniques, and forms still remain the same.
    Al Tracy learned from Ed Parker, who learned from William Chow, who learned from James Mitose.

    How has that changed?

    Now, I know that in American Kenpo, in order to remove Mitose from their lineage, Ed Parker conveniently changed the definition of lineage to include only one's direct instructor. But, that does not mean that Al Tracy changed his lineage.
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    I mean absolutely no disrespect in asking this Dave ... I hope you know that, but ... Seems about 13 or 14 years ago Al Tracy had a tape he was selling that was a big ceremony regarding closing out one set of origins and opening another?

    Don't remember, for sure, what that was all about, but it seemed at the time, as my crusty old brain recalls, that it had to do with closing out the lineage going back to Parker and going over to the Mitose - Chow lineage, or some such.

    If I am mistaken, I apologize to you. But I am curious as to what that was and could use a refresher no matter what.

    Like I said, I do believe the history will come down as correct by the person with the best editor.

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    I believe this is the guy who ran the school I attended. Does anyone have any information about Sensi Roemer? Does he still teach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigung86 View Post
    I mean absolutely no disrespect in asking this Dave ... I hope you know that, but ... Seems about 13 or 14 years ago Al Tracy had a tape he was selling that was a big ceremony regarding closing out one set of origins and opening another?

    Don't remember, for sure, what that was all about, but it seemed at the time, as my crusty old brain recalls, that it had to do with closing out the lineage going back to Parker and going over to the Mitose - Chow lineage, or some such.

    If I am mistaken, I apologize to you. But I am curious as to what that was and could use a refresher no matter what.

    Like I said, I do believe the history will come down as correct by the person with the best editor.
    I'll have to dig out the booklet. The way I remember it is that GM Tracy was officially acknowledging our link to Mitose. I am not sure how that "closes out" his lineage to Parker. I'll try and find the booklet, though.

    Meanwhile, on GM Tracy's website (as of today!) under the Family Tree section, he lists his lineage in 2 columns: on the left, Mitose, Chow, and Parker, and on the right, Mitose, Arquilla, and Tracy.
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