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    Hi Doc,

    I recall reading in one of your previous posts; you mentioned you prepared a thesis,Covering the subject of Children in Kenpo or to the effect,
    for your 7TH degree.

    (I’m sorry Doc , I can’t seem to find the thread,)

    Time permitting; I would be extremely grateful in hearing more on the subject.

    Kind Regards

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    I too would like to read any thoughts onthis topic.
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    That would be an interesting read. I've read many of Doc's posts here and on MT. I don't recall that though.

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    I would also like to hear your insights on this Doc.
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    Did a search for this to see if it got answered anywhere else, but didn't find anything. I am always interested in reading Doc's writtings.
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    Did Doc not reply to this or am i missing something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shane23ss View Post
    Did Doc not reply to this or am i missing something?
    Nope, it's possible that by the time he checked the forum following this post it could have moved "down the list" and escaped his attention. Doc is usually quite good about answering peoples questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shane23ss View Post
    Did Doc not reply to this or am i missing something?
    Nope, you're not missing anything. It's possible that the post got "moved down the list" and by the time Doc logged on to the forum it simply escaped his attention. He's usually pretty good about answering questions directed to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer View Post
    Hi Doc,

    I recall reading in one of your previous posts; you mentioned you prepared a thesis,Covering the subject of Children in Kenpo or to the effect,
    for your 7TH degree.

    (I’m sorry Doc , I can’t seem to find the thread,)

    Time permitting; I would be extremely grateful in hearing more on the subject.

    Kind Regards

    Damien
    2 comments. First, the norovirus hitting California is no joke. Second, my approach to the assignment was a simple one. I modularized/cellularized the rank by age. By creating a multiple tiered rank structure, it allowed ranks at all ages to be credible without affecting or comparison to others.

    First Level - ages 0-10
    NO MARTIAL ARTS PHYSICAL REQUIREMENTS (Students will learn anyway)

    Students are taught basics but have no physical performance requirements for promotion other than a social contract with parents and students. Wearing of the uniform properly, placement of patches, proper tying of the belt and social ettiquette, along with minimum standards in school and home performance through personal responsibilities. Grading is on an on-going basis during a predetermined period of several weeks to determine adherence to guidlines. Successful candidates are posted on a list of students required to attend an "acknowledgement gathering" at Chuck E. Chesse, Ice Cream Parlor, etc on a Sunday afternoon or Friday evening. During the festivities of food and fun. periodically a student annoucement will be made. The student will be called forward, their accomplishments outside of martial art will be acknowledged, a certificate and belt will be handed to them, along with applause. This will occur every 10 minutes until everyone has been acknowledged. No martial arts fanfare or performances. The actual belt has multiple options. In my experiements I found that children in this age group do not care what they receive, along as their peers receive the same thing. A white belt with colored tips, inerspaced with black stripes gives 14 promotion options, and was my first recommendation. White belts with the colored stripes were an option as well. All who have been in the school at least one month, and within 30 days of their 11th birthday, will have a "graduation test" and move to the next level. The only 'rank' that is transferable to the next level is yellow.

    Next up Level two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    2 comments. First, the norovirus hitting California is no joke. Second, my approach to the assignment was a simple one. I modularized/cellularized the rank by age. By creating a multiple tiered rank structure, it allowed ranks at all ages to be credible without affecting or comparison to others.

    First Level - ages 0-10
    NO MARTIAL ARTS PHYSICAL REQUIREMENTS (Students will learn anyway)

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    Next up Level two.

    Discussion.
    I like it, great idea!
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    There were no physical performance requirements for promotions, but what about the material that would be taught in classes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IWishToLearn View Post
    There were no physical performance requirements for promotions, but what about the material that would be taught in classes?
    You take the curriculum basics from the 101 (yellow) course material, and teach it in a more creative manner because "performance" is not an issue. In my own experimentation when I was writing the thesis, I created "basics games." Actual performance requirements are initiated at the 2nd level (11-16), "Youth" designation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    You take the curriculum basics from the 101 (yellow) course material, and teach it in a more creative manner because "performance" is not an issue. In my own experimentation when I was writing the thesis, I created "basics games." Actual performance requirements are initiated at the 2nd level (11-16), "Youth" designation.
    Doc, I need those basics games more than I need a burger taller than a can of soda. And you KNOW I need one of those pretty badly. Please tell me what I can do for you to get some of that


    thanks Doc!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidCC View Post
    Doc, I need those basics games more than I need a burger taller than a can of soda. And you KNOW I need one of those pretty badly. Please tell me what I can do for you to get some of that


    thanks Doc!!!

    -David
    Start with my favorite sparring game, "Kicking Butt."

    Students square off according to size and may only use their legs. They have only one target - the butt. Roundhouse and front kicks are aimed at the butt and one point given for contact. Points are also given if they kick the wrong target to the recipient of the "foul." Winners are declared as having, "Kicked Butt." "Mommy I kicked butt today." I often heard students tell their parents..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Start with my favorite sparring game, "Kicking Butt."

    Students square off according to size and may only use their legs. They have only one target - the butt. Roundhouse and front kicks are aimed at the butt and one point given for contact. Points are also given if they kick the wrong target to the recipient of the "foul." Winners are declared as having, "Kicked Butt." "Mommy I kicked butt today." I often heard students tell their parents..
    thats a pretty nasty thing to do to someone . iv been kicked right in the nerve on my arse cheek, its hard to walk much less chase someone..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Start with my favorite sparring game, "Kicking Butt."

    Students square off according to size and may only use their legs. They have only one target - the butt. Roundhouse and front kicks are aimed at the butt and one point given for contact. Points are also given if they kick the wrong target to the recipient of the "foul." Winners are declared as having, "Kicked Butt." "Mommy I kicked butt today." I often heard students tell their parents..
    that sounds like fun. And kids will like anything with the word "butt" involved ROFL.

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