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    American Chúan-Fa Concepts
    The 10 Rules of Engagement
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    1. ELONGATE — Your attacker’s thought process.

    Utilize your understanding of the components of “speed,” and elongate the perceptual aspect, thereby making your attacker slow to react and increases your speed, and “disrupt” his intentions.

    2. DISRUPT — The attacker’s intentions.

    With a clear understanding of concepts like “Spatial Distortion” in conjunction with the “elongation” of his perceptions of the action, you “disrupt” and change his intentions, “control” his actions, and “dominate” in “real time.”

    3. DRAIN - Your attacker’s energy.

    By “Completing the Circuit,” “Draining,” or “Confusing” the “visual cortex,” your attacker’s energy may be diminished, changed, or negated as you “control,” disrupt,” “elongate,” “misalign,” and “apply” all of your methodologies.

    4. MISALIGNYour attacker’s anatomy.

    “Physical Misalignment Technology” can prevent your attacker from performing efficiently, or not at all, while he is “controlled,” “dominated,” and “drained.”

    5. CREATE — Negative Posture and "un-shield" your opponent.

    By creating “Negative Posture” in your opponent, his ability to be offensive or defensive is diminished significantly, thereby “controlling,” “Dominating,” and “disrupting” your attacker, as well as opening his meridians and "un-shielding" him.

    6. CONTROLThe actions of your attacker.

    The “Control” of your attacker’s actions allows you to utilize other components to your advantage as you “dominate’ the space and “misalign” his body.

    7. DOMINATEThe space between you and your attacker.

    If you “control” the distance between you and your attacker, then you “dominate” the space and therefore dictate “how” it will be used and by “who.”

    8. MAINTAINYour own Positive Posture.

    For maximum efficiency, you are required to move properly for strength, energy, and a “positive posture” so you may “dominate,” and “control.”

    9. APPLYConstant pressure.

    If you "control" the depth, and "dominate" his space as you create "Negative Posture" in your attacker and "misalign" his body, you are constantly "pressuring" and disrupting his thought process and intentions.

    10. MODULATEYour destruction.

    If you can do one through nine successfully, you should be capable of determining the amount of destruction you bring to the encounter.
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    Thank you for that, Sir!

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    Default Re: American Chúan-Fa - 10 Rules of Engagement

    Very nice. Thanks for sharing sir
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    Study Group Discussion of Number 1:


    "Speed Kills" - Your Technique

    "I'm not fast, I just use my body efficiently which creates an illusion of speed. Like the 'slow' receiver in football whose always open, it's not the speed but the effective proper execution that kills you."

    Ed Parker Sr.

    SPEED

    To understand techniques and how they function, you must have knowledge of physics in general, and how your body functions mechanically in particular. Most function from an aesthetic perspective and assume body movements that look right to them are correct. This is a result of what I call “Mimic Teaching.” Teacher demonstrates what to do, and the student mimics the movement. But body mechanics are more complex than that and mimicking your teacher, (if they are correct), is only the beginning of the process that must engage not only your body but your mind as well to create a “mind and body connection.”

    It is the study of our body and how our senses, through the use of mathematical laws, theories, concepts, and principles of mass, speed, body alignment, angles, body momentum, gravity, rotating force (torque), focus, stability, power, penetration, etc., can make our body function intuitively. An in-depth study of these theories, concepts, and principles of physics and body mechanics will also reveal the sophisticated basics that are contained within embryonic basics.

    "He who hesitates meditates in a horizontal position", is a statement Ed Parker Sr. used to imply the need for prompt action. It is a statement referring to terms related to speed.

    "Do it now", "I want it done this instant", "be prompt", "you'd better be fast", "be quick about it", "you must do it rapidly", "it depends upon the swiftness of your action", are terms that imply speed, or act to hasten velocity irrespective of direction or dimension.
    As we study we learn that they are concepts related to distance and time. By definition, speed is equal to the distance divided by the time (s=d/t) it takes to act or move.

    Speed, however, goes beyond the definitions described. Like the Eskimo who uses a number of terms to describe the types of snow, we, too, must distinguish and categorize speed to make it meaningful in the training environment.

    There are three categories of speed -- perceptual, mental, and physical (body performance). However, although categorized separately in order to analyze what speed entails, they nevertheless function as one.


    Perceptual Speed

    is the quickness of the senses to monitor the stimulus that it receives, determine the meaning of the stimulus, and to swiftly convey the perceived information to the brain so that mental speed can parlay the response. This is a part of Proprioceptive Neural Muscular Facilitation and how it relates to our “startle reflex.”

    To the practitioner/victim, it is the feel or smell of trouble, a sound that detects trouble, a sign or gesture that suggests trouble, seeing the incoming strike, the inviting opening, or the opportunity to attack or counterattack. Speed can be increased by maintaining alertness and by conditioning the senses to harmonize with environmental awareness.

    Mental Speed

    is the quickness of the mind to select appropriate responses to effectively deal with the stimulus once perceived through proprioception. Speed, however, can only be increased by practicing the various aspects of techniques on a regular basis. I call this ‘Mind and Body Familiarity.” This involves learning the techniques to a point of total familiarity and instinctive response or mental speed, in nullifying the threat. As you broaden your knowledge of alternatives and can conceptualize the random answers that exist in your subconscious mind, your instinctive response (once again mental speed), increases proportionately when it is triggered by the perceived stimulus.

    Physical Speed

    or body performance is the promptness of physical movement -- the fluency in response to the perceived stimulus. In my teachings, it is the speed of the actual execution of a technique. Speed can be increased through stretching, body conditioning, and other proper methods of training. Stretching exercises help to increase elasticity that automatically develops reach. Body conditioning prevents fatigue and allows body speed to function for longer periods of time.

    Knowledge of the principle of body mechanics contributes to speed. It avoids erroneous angles and teaches you how to administer your strength (power) in obtaining the most for your efforts in the shortest effective period of time while working with the body and not against it.
    This principle (1) stresses the importance of being relaxed when striking -- tensing only at the moment of impact, (2) makes one aware that time is crucial, (3) uses movements that follow strict anatomical nad fight strategy principles, (4) eliminates telegraphing unless used as a means of deceptive strategy; teaches (5) continuity, flow, and rhythm, (6) to respond from wherever your natural weapons are located at the time of combat (point of origin), no matter what your, or your attacker’s, body position may be at the time; (7) target accessibility and the distance, or range, that exists between your attacker’s targets and your natural weapons, (8) the time it will take to get to the target of your choice, and (9) to also consider the speed of your attacker’s action or reaction when analyzing movement.

    A concluding note -- while body speed often enhances power, it is without a doubt not the root of power. Synchronization of body mass and speed are two of the major ingredients that add to creating power. Don’t become a victim of the “The Curse” and fall into the trap that speed is everything. Stay “within yourself.” Never let your speed overcome your ability to execute properly with good stances, basics, and control.

    In the rules of engagement #1 is understanding Perceptual Speed, and executing in a way that slows your attacker’s ability to perceive what you’re doing by disguising your actions often using the principles of Psychology of Confrontations when attacked or responding. No matter how fast a person may be if you can slow his ability to perceive they even need to act than you slow them down considerably.

    In my teaching, my mantra to students is always – “Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast.” Take your time and inculcate the movements only at a speed where they are correct and functional. When you make a mistake, stop immediately. Retrace your steps back to the beginning and only go as far as you can correctly. To go beyond your mistake with the idea of going back and “fixing” it later only reinforces the mistake, not fix it.

    Overtime as your body and mind develop familiarity, the movements will speed up organically with little effort. However, to be fast and wrong no matter how fast, will always be wrong and inhibit the ability to move to higher levels of execution.

    For some arts, speed is everything and no matter what you just keep going. This will create a functional ceiling of execution and will never reach the higher levels. It is a choice. One that I do not allow my students to make.
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    Another facet of speed is planning (for lack of a better word at the moment). If you have an idea of what you are going to do, rather than figuring it out as you go, you get there quicker.
    Basics, the rest is bullshytery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRANKIN View Post
    Another facet of speed is planning (for lack of a better word at the moment). If you have an idea of what you are going to do, rather than figuring it out as you go, you get there quicker.
    Very good. This is also known as "scenario training" used extensively in the military and law enforcement. In a confrontation, you have to have already set your limitations so you are not put in the position to make some decisions "in the moment." The other person has either decided or working on it, and you don't want to be behind the curve forced into a purely reactionary position. In deadly force situations, you can't wait until the threat fully materializes because then you're dead. This is why when confronted by police, furtive movements can be hazardous to your health. Police know reaction times, and if a suspect initiates certain movements, you may not have time to respond if you wait until the last minute. Here tactics play a large part in your response as well.

    When you decide beforehand where the line is drawn, you're already in the fight before it starts. Set your limitations whatever it might be. "If he raises his right hand.....," "If he gets within arms reach .....," "If he puts his hand in his pocket....," etc. Whenever the opportunity arises to set your "trigger point" set your boundaries based on previous scenario training. As you become more and more experienced your boundaries will change. Depending on the scenario, you may become more or less tolerant, however, you will always be ahead of the curve by making these decisions in advance. If you don't, you may be in a fight but not even know it - yet!

    But in point #1 we're talking specifically about how to ELONGATE the attacker's reaction or PERCEPTUAL SPEED. The average reaction time to external stimuli varies according to the stimulus itself.

    For a VISUAL stimulus, it is about 0.25 seconds

    For an AUDIO stimulus, it is about 0.17 seconds

    For a TOUCH stimulus, it is about 0.15

    Knowing this means you can use proprioception against an attacker or in a confrontation to your advantage, slowing down the attacker's ability to respond.

    How about some examples.
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    I gleaned this from another teacher...

    Having a nonthreatening shallow neutral fighting bow/stance. Hands up, palms out, about shoulder height. Ready to rock but appearing innocuous.
    Basics, the rest is bullshytery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRANKIN View Post
    I gleaned this from another teacher...

    Having a nonthreatening shallow neutral fighting bow/stance. Hands up, palms out, about shoulder height. Ready to rock but appearing innocuous.
    You just described the standard posture taught in my Yellow Belt Curriculum.

    In Psychology of Confrontation we teach this non-threatening posture to give a possible attacker a false sense of security. A sense that they have already won with this semi-submissive posture, that affords us all of our offensive and defensive possibilities. We are already in the fight. The attacker is trying to decide if he wants to fight, and how much. Now we are assessing their martial posture and mapping the possibilities and setting the boundary for their demise.

    In California under the law, when someone threatens you and moves to complete the threat, they've committed an assault (240 P.C.) so you don't have to wait for them to physically touch you to act. Once they actually make contact it becomes a completed assault, or Battery, 242 P.C.
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    You just described the standard posture taught in my Yellow Belt Curriculum.

    In Psychology of Confrontation we teach this non-threatening posture to give a possible attacker a false sense of security. A sense that they have already won with this semi-submissive posture, that affords us all of our offensive and defensive possibilities. We are already in the fight. The attacker is trying to decide if he wants to fight, and how much. Now we are assessing their martial posture and mapping the possibilities and setting the boundary for their demise.

    In California under the law, when someone threatens you and moves to complete the threat, they've committed an assault (240 P.C.) so you don't have to wait for them to physically touch you to act. Once they actually make contact it becomes a completed assault, or Battery, 242 P.C.
    This is what I would consider a facet of #1 "Elongate". Altering your opponent's perception. I'm sure there is more to it but that's what came to mind for me.
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    You just described the standard posture taught in my Yellow Belt Curriculum.

    In Psychology of Confrontation we teach this non-threatening posture to give a possible attacker a false sense of security. A sense that they have already won with this semi-submissive posture, that affords us all of our offensive and defensive possibilities. We are already in the fight. The attacker is trying to decide if he wants to fight, and how much. Now we are assessing their martial posture and mapping the possibilities and setting the boundary for their demise.

    In California under the law, when someone threatens you and moves to complete the threat, they've committed an assault (240 P.C.) so you don't have to wait for them to physically touch you to act. Once they actually make contact it becomes a completed assault, or Battery, 242 P.C.
    I’ve always taught this as “The Fence”. Your perceived demeanor screams submission, while your mind and body is already five steps ahead in the encounter

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    I’ve always taught this as “The Fence”. Your perceived demeanor screams submission, while your mind and body is already five steps ahead in the encounter

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    Where does the combining of movements/simultaneous movements fall into the mix? Perceptual speed or physical speed? Seems to me to be physical with a decided effect on perceptual.

    Open to being convinced otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdparsons View Post
    Where does the combining of movements/simultaneous movements fall into the mix? Perceptual speed or physical speed? Seems to me to be physical with a decided effect on perceptual.

    Open to being convinced otherwise.

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    Not sure what you mean sir, could you break it down for me please?
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    How do the concepts of Aikido fit or not fit in this discussion?

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    How do the concepts of Aikido fit or not fit in this discussion?
    Which concepts, exactly?
    Basics, the rest is bullshytery.

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    When it comes to self-defence situational abstracts, there is always an elephant in the room for me.

    It is the attitude of the practitioner/defender. It is usually assumed as understood. But because it is such a critical component, it really needs to be addressed comprehensively.

    I am certainly not the one who can elaborate in detail on this important aspect. That is why I enjoy reading YOUR posts, Doc.

    I can only put it this way. If I'm in a self-defence situation and I cannot escape, no matter how bad the cards are stacked against me, I truly believe that I will prevail. I have to believe it if I'm going to survive. Any doubt and I will surely be meditating in a horizontal position.

    My attitude becomes a force of will. A critical requirement for me to survive.
    Basics, the rest is bullshytery.

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    The concept of yielding to your opponent while drawing them into takedown or into a strike . They push you pull. What happens next is up to you.

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    Not sure what you mean sir, could you break it down for me please?
    I’ll see if I can put my thoughts together cogently.
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    I’ll see if I can put my thoughts together cogently.
    I'm having the same issue right now myself.
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