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    These are the foot maneuvers listed as 'Basics' in the studio where I study. Submitted for discussion.

    Step-Thru
    Step-Drag
    Drag-Step
    Switch
    Cover
    Push-Drag
    Front Crossover
    Rear Crossover
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    There is also a hop and a jump. The definitions of a hop leap and a jump really surprised me when I learned them
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    Quote Originally Posted by dubljay
    There is also a hop and a jump. The definitions of a hop leap and a jump really surprised me when I learned them
    Please share that with us.

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    When I first learned about the seperate and unique definitions of a hop, a leap, and a jump I was completely stunned.

    Here are the definitions as I learned them.

    Jump: This is when you push off with both feet and land on both feet.

    Leap: This is when you push off with one foot and land on the other. (i.e. the right foot pushes off and you land on your left foot)

    Hop: This is when you push off with one foot and land on that same foot. (i.e. push off with the right foot and land with the left foot)

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    Default Re: Basics - Foot Maneuvers

    Quote Originally Posted by dubljay

    Hop: This is when you push off with one foot and land on that same foot. (i.e. push off with the right foot and land with the left foot)

    -Josh-

    DO'H!!! that is supposed to be "Push off with the right foot and land on the right foot"

    stupid me!
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    Is a cat considered a foot maneuver or is it better classified as a stance?

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    Default Re: Basics - Foot Maneuvers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ceicei
    Is a cat considered a foot maneuver or is it better classified as a stance?

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    I think it is better classified as a stance. (see the thread on stances) Though hypothetically speaking all stances except a neutral bow could be considered foot maneuvers simply because they are all transitional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceicei
    Is a cat considered a foot maneuver or is it better classified as a stance?

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    I have the 45 degree cat listed as a 'stance' in my basics list. Oddly, I don't have the 90 degree cat listed. We also find the 'cat' in the 'Stance Set'.

    However, in application, isn't the cat always used as a 'transition'? That would sort of make it a maneuver, wouldn't it?

    So, I guess the answer to that would be 'YES'.

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    Default Re: Basics - Foot Maneuvers

    Quote Originally Posted by dubljay
    When I first learned about the seperate and unique definitions of a hop, a leap, and a jump I was completely stunned.

    Here are the definitions as I learned them.

    Jump: This is when you push off with both feet and land on both feet.

    Leap: This is when you push off with one foot and land on the other. (i.e. the right foot pushes off and you land on your left foot)

    Hop: This is when you push off with one foot and land on that same foot. (i.e. push off with the right foot and land with the left foot)

    -Josh-
    Thanks Josh these are great definitions and they actually make perfect sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaeledward
    These are the foot maneuvers listed as 'Basics' in the studio where I study. Submitted for discussion.


    Step-Thru
    Step-Drag
    Drag-Step
    SwitchCover
    Push-Drag
    Front Crossover
    Rear Crossover
    Leap
    You've almost got the all listed there... I'll expand on what you've already put up.

    Foot Maneuverrs

    1. Step-through forward
    2. Step-through reverse
    3. Step-drag forward
    4. Step-drag reverse
    5. Drag-step forward
    6. Drag-step reverse
    7. Push-drag forward
    8. Push-drag reverse
    9. Pull-drag forward
    10. Pull-drag reverse
    11. Front crossover forward
    12. Front crossover reverse
    13. Rear crossover forward
    14. Rear crossover reverse
    15. Switch with a hop
    16. Front to back switch
    17. Back to front switch
    18. Cover
    19. Jumping cover
    20. Leap
    21. The moon walk (okay just kidding on this one).


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    Billy Lear, Yes, we do each of the Basic Foot Maneuvers in both forward and reverse directions, and we do the switch in all three methods.

    The 'Jumping Cover' is a maneuver with which I am unfamiliar.

    As I understand it, a 'Cover' changes direction without gaining or losing distance. We do this by moving the forward foot across the center line, then pivot.


    Is the 'Jumping Cover' like the 'Switch with a hop', that changes direction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaeledward
    Is the 'Jumping Cover' like the 'Switch with a hop', that changes direction?
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaeledward
    Billy Lear, Yes, we do each of the Basic Foot Maneuvers in both forward and reverse directions, and we do the switch in all three methods.

    The 'Jumping Cover' is a maneuver with which I am unfamiliar.

    As I understand it, a 'Cover' changes direction without gaining or losing distance. We do this by moving the forward foot across the center line, then pivot.


    Is the 'Jumping Cover' like the 'Switch with a hop', that changes direction?
    Ohhh! and I forgot to add:
    1. In-place twists
    2. Dives
    3. Feints

    Dude... I'm getting rusty.

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    Default Re: Basics - Foot Maneuvers

    These are advanced foot manuvers, and the only person I know who can do them is my 8 year old gymnast, but how about splitting and flipping? They are listed in II 2, but I've always wondered if anyone trains for these in their studios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaeledward
    I have the 45 degree cat listed as a 'stance' in my basics list. Oddly, I don't have the 90 degree cat listed. We also find the 'cat' in the 'Stance Set'.

    However, in application, isn't the cat always used as a 'transition'? That would sort of make it a maneuver, wouldn't it?

    So, I guess the answer to that would be 'YES'.

    Mike
    I am assuming that by answering yes you are saying it is a stance. Just to clarify, I was taught that the difference between a Maneuver and a transitional stance, is that the a maneuver moves the whole body in a given direction to advance, evade (or give you a better position). While a transitional stance is used to check, create momentum, ect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjhiya
    These are advanced foot manuvers, and the only person I know who can do them is my 8 year old gymnast, but how about splitting and flipping? They are listed in II 2, but I've always wondered if anyone trains for these in their studios.
    the only flipping I can do is with a particular finger and the only splitting that will happen is the tearing of my pants if I try...
    See, all I've gotta do is get loose like I'm fluid, dude, Rollin' up my sleeves on my gi and get into it. You and who, him and them? Line up in a single file. One on one, all for one...end up in a bigger pile. The ambiance of Martial Arts is constant, Nunchucks chuckin' when I step in the mosh pit. Wing Chun dummy getting splintered apart, Escrima sticks whippin' and I'm chipping the bark. What are you? A pink belt? I'll give you a head start. Kumite killin', with the spirit of Ed Parker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronuss
    the only flipping I can do is with a particular finger and the only splitting that will happen is the tearing of my pants if I try...
    Something to remember when discussing the different things Mr. Parker categorized. He didn't say you had to be able to do all of them. He said you had to be aware of them. Just because you cannot flip doesn't mean someone else cannot and that they cannot bring it into play against you.....
    Just because you do something one way, does not mean that everyone else does it that way, or that it is even the correct way.

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    I remember that from II:2 where he was talking about all the foot/body maneuvers.
    See, all I've gotta do is get loose like I'm fluid, dude, Rollin' up my sleeves on my gi and get into it. You and who, him and them? Line up in a single file. One on one, all for one...end up in a bigger pile. The ambiance of Martial Arts is constant, Nunchucks chuckin' when I step in the mosh pit. Wing Chun dummy getting splintered apart, Escrima sticks whippin' and I'm chipping the bark. What are you? A pink belt? I'll give you a head start. Kumite killin', with the spirit of Ed Parker.

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    Default Re: Basics - Foot Maneuvers

    This thread was started almost a year ago, and could defitiely be useful to many people on the site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Lear
    Ohhh! and I forgot to add:
    1. In-place twists
    2. Dives
    3. Feints
    I just took a look back at this thread, and on my original list, I noticed the 'Twist Through' maneuvers were not present. Mr. Planas had said that these maneuvers never made it to the basics list, by oversight.

    Of course, we execute the Twist Through maneuvers in Long Form 2, and Checking the Storm, in the early material.

    I quote Billy Lear here, because of his 'In Place Twists'.

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