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    Default Long Form 8

    Anybody know it?
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    I know the form. It's required for promotion to 5th degree black belt in American Kenpo.

    Do you have any questions about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seabrook
    I know the form. It's required for promotion to 5th degree black belt in American Kenpo.

    Do you have any questions about it?

    Yea, how do you do it? LOL. Do you have it written out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerkarate
    Yea, how do you do it? LOL. Do you have it written out?
    Written out?

    Gosh no. It's way too long for SPECIFIC details. Also, there's no way someone could learn the form from written descriptions.

    It's basically made up of empty hand techniques done earlier in our system but now executed with two knives. There are some new techniques in it as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seabrook
    Written out?

    Gosh no. It's way too long for SPECIFIC details. Also, there's no way someone could learn the form from written descriptions.

    It's basically made up of empty hand techniques done earlier in our system but now executed with two knives. There are some new techniques in it as well.
    Darn I want to finish learning the forms because I am on 7 now, but I doubt Mr. Joe will teach them to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerkarate
    Darn I want to finish learning the forms because I am on 7 now, but I doubt Mr. Joe will teach them to me.
    In case you were unaware, Joe Palanzo has Long Form 7 on tape, step by step. It also includes some footage of him learning the form when he was a 7th degree black belt from Ed Parker.
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    I have that tape. Watching Mr. Parker is the best part of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seabrook
    In case you were unaware, Joe Palanzo has Long Form 7 on tape, step by step. It also includes some footage of him learning the form when he was a 7th degree black belt from Ed Parker.
    I have seen the tape many times, he does go through the techniques but he does not go through the directions of which to deliver the techniques and he has a bunch of stuff in the very end that not covered during the instructional part.
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    I know this is would be asking for a lot but could someone that knows long 8 put it on members in motion? I finally got Long 7 down and I ran out of time at home to learn long 8.

    THis would be greatly appreciated and very cool.
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    You might consider getting Mr. Tatum's DVD's on form 8, but I can assure you that even with the DVD's it's quite a difficult form to learn.

    But then again, if it weren't difficult, it wouldn't be a challenge, now would it?

    Marcel

    PS: don't ask me anything (yet) since I've only learned 25% of the form so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seabrook View Post
    I know the form. It's required for promotion to 5th degree black belt in American Kenpo.

    Do you have any questions about it?
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    someone on kenponet was looking for a written description of 8. I do believe that someone there said they had one. You might want to look for the header text on form 8 or long form 8 over there.

    I seriously doubt you can learn it from a video but could be wrong. The video is good for supplemental use. Especially a knife form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerkarate View Post
    Darn I want to finish learning the forms because I am on 7 now, but I doubt Mr. Joe will teach them to me.

    why do you think he won't teach it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flying crane View Post
    why do you think he won't teach it?

    I asked him and he said I did not need to know them for a long time. But I got Long 7 from Mr. Sparando up there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerkarate View Post
    I asked him and he said I did not need to know them for a long time. But I got Long 7 from Mr. Sparando up there.

    Ah-ha. well, maybe you are trying to push things faster than you should be. It is important to learn things well. Take your time and give each thing you learn the proper attention and effort that it deserves. Don't be in a hurry to learn too much too quickly, or it will all be junk. If he thinks you are not ready, you might want to just accept his judgement. Sounds like he will still teach it when he feels it is appropirate.
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    Default Re: Long Form 8

    I know it and teach it -

    I work out at Bob Whites in Costa Mesa www.bwkenpo.com

    Version I do has a lot of knife principles worked in and looks a little different from the tapes I have seen. The shell is the same but the knife manipulationns are different-

    The finger set alone will give you headaches -

    You can go here : www.patsalantri.com Mr Salantri has two volumes of the form written out and he is making a DVD -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphias View Post

    The finger set alone will give you headaches -


    Dave
    Ha, ha. I agree completely!!


    Too funny, Dave.
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    I ment just a clip of it. So everyone can see what it looks like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfarnsworth View Post
    someone on kenponet was looking for a written description of 8. I do believe that someone there said they had one. You might want to look for the header text on form 8 or long form 8 over there.

    I seriously doubt you can learn it from a video but could be wrong. The video is good for supplemental use. Especially a knife form.

    Weird. I learned it the same way I learned 7, stringing actual techniques together into a form. If you know the techniques you should be able to do the form without much trouble. (I would think anyway.)

    BTW, congratulations to Mr. Seabrook for making "black" I saw he has 1005 posts now!
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    I seen a tape of Tatum's form 7. I also have a video of Mr. Frederick doing form 7. They are 2 totally seperate animals.

    I agree with you about the techniques and the weapons. The weapon is only an extension of the arm. Knowing 1 you can figure out the other. However putting them in a sequence might be a little tough. Maybe, I guess. It's just my thought

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