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    Default Re: 9th Degree demonstrating Short III with neutral bows...

    Quote Originally Posted by DRANKIN View Post
    True this ^^
    I'll record and post my own interpretation of Mr. Rainey's Short III for peer scrutiny as I, also, appreciation discussion and critique. And I encourage the critics to demonstrate proper execution as well.
    Good for you. It can only make you better.
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    Default Re: 9th Degree demonstrating Short III with neutral bows...

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Some people are a tad full of themselves and feel they're above criticism. Personally, I embrace criticism because sometimes despite how brilliant I think I am , people are right and present points of views that I may not have considered without their perspectives. Even if they're wrong it confirms my point of view in discussions. You get smarter by being open to criticism, not by being a know-it-all. Mr. Rainey is a smart man who embraced that philosophy ever since he was a purple belt, as far as I know, and is one of my former students. I teach that way and encourage discussion and criticism. If I can't answer the question satisfactorily then I'm not doing my job very well. Mr. Rainey still does that as well. Some stay away from here because they can't handle being told they might be wrong. "The mind is like a parachute, it only works when it opens." - Ed Parker Sr.
    Well, clearly I'd never question or criticize you... ohh... .wait... yea that ship sailed years ago didn't it? which reminds me... I need to upload those videos that I finally got around to doing...

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    Well, clearly I'd never question or criticize you... ohh... .wait... yea that ship sailed years ago didn't it? which reminds me... I need to upload those videos that I finally got around to doing...

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    Ok, so you're not doing a rabbit replication thingy on these videos right? This is a family-friendly forum and I'd like to keep it that way.
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    Default Re: 9th Degree demonstrating Short III with neutral bows...

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Ok, so you're not doing a rabbit replication thingy on these videos right? This is a family-friendly forum and I'd like to keep it that way.
    Well duh!! I'm a total professional that would.... never..... um... post......

    ...

    Let me check...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBunny View Post
    Well duh!! I'm a total professional that would.... never..... um... post......

    ...

    Let me check...

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    Though... no kidding... at one point I saw an ad for someone teaching classes called "Erotic Martial Arts"

    I was like... wait what? .. what would the techniques even..... ahhh god I have to stop thinking right now........
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    Default Re: 9th Degree demonstrating Short III with neutral bows...

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Some people are a tad full of themselves and feel they're above criticism. Personally, I embrace criticism because sometimes despite how brilliant I think I am , people are right and present points of views that I may not have considered without their perspectives. Even if they're wrong it confirms my point of view in discussions. You get smarter by being open to criticism, not by being a know-it-all. Mr. Rainey is a smart man who embraced that philosophy ever since he was a purple belt, as far as I know, and is one of my former students. I teach that way and encourage discussion and criticism. If I can't answer the question satisfactorily then I'm not doing my job very well. Mr. Rainey still does that as well. Some stay away from here because they can't handle being told they might be wrong. "The mind is like a parachute, it only works when it opens." - Ed Parker Sr.
    To be very clear here, I have posted hours of video of myself doing and teaching... My comment was maybe a bit premature in trying to ward off some of the negativity toward a good friend. And had Drankin talked about the bouncy floor and bad knees in the original post I would have probably refrained from my stupidity in posting here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sumdumguy View Post
    To be very clear here, I have posted hours of video of myself doing and teaching... My comment was maybe a bit premature in trying to ward off some of the negativity toward a good friend. And had Drankin talked about the bouncy floor and bad knees in the original post I would have probably refrained from my stupidity in posting here.
    No harm no foul sir. Criticism is the stock and trade here, and all of us have been on the negative end of it. We don't indulge egos or engage in mutual admiration because that is the domain of the M.F.L. That being said, no one is intentionally picking on anyone and Dennis knows his issues when he posts and will accept what is being said in that light, as he always does. I commend you however for standing up for a friend and student so I know what drives your sensitivity. We've all been there but arguing the merits is why we're here and we all learn from the process.
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    Default Re: 9th Degree demonstrating Short III with neutral bows...

    Doc,
    the friend is Mr. Rainey as is Drankin but neither is my student.

    for entertainment here is one such posted video that I spoke, I believe this is staying with the theme of the thread. this was done several years ago (on the same bouncy gymnastics floor) so some adjusting is required with regard to balance and position.

    https://youtu.be/Khm8fzg9PIk
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    Quote Originally Posted by sumdumguy View Post
    Doc,
    the friend is Mr. Rainey as is Drankin but neither is my student.

    for entertainment here is one such posted video that I spoke, I believe this is staying with the theme of the thread. this was done several years ago (on the same bouncy gymnastics floor) so some adjusting is required with regard to balance and position.

    https://youtu.be/Khm8fzg9PIk
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    Showoff!
    In all seriousness, it is beyond refreshing to see someone perform a form and not only NOT move their hands any faster than their feet and posture can support, but to actually have stances that you can see done correctly. I bring this up because I'm probably at the top of the list when it comes to criticism of posture in general, and stances and their transitions in particular. Therefore when I see it well done, I should issue the appropriate "compliment of objectivity." Good job sir.
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    Default Re: 9th Degree demonstrating Short III with neutral bows...

    I agree. I think that’s one of the best forms I’ve seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdinca View Post
    I agree. I think that’s one of the best forms I’ve seen.
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    Default Re: 9th Degree demonstrating Short III with neutral bows...

    Seems like a whole bunch of moves added at the end. The first half was terrific!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson View Post
    Seems like a whole bunch of moves added at the end. The first half was terrific!
    Uh, I don't think so Big Nelson. He performed Short Three pretty much textbook as it is written. Your comment confused me for a moment and I even took to my archives to make sure I was remembering correctly, and yep! No extra moves, just a solid representation of the ideas of Short Form 3. The last of the real forms as everything created after was designed for competition because the Kenpo guys were getting killed in forms competition at the International Karate Championships.
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    Though... no kidding... at one point I saw an ad for someone teaching classes called "Erotic Martial Arts"

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    Those techniques come from the ancient manuscript of the "Kata Sutra".
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    Default Re: 9th Degree demonstrating Short III with neutral bows...

    Is this the same version that Ed Parker performed at Long Beach?

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    Is this the same version that Ed Parker performed at Long Beach?
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