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    Default May 2006 Set of the Month - Kicking Set

    1. Bow.
    2. Start from a horse stance facing 12 o'clock.
    3. Drop your right foot back to 6 o'clock in a left neutral bow facing 12 o'clock to start the Kicking Set.


    Set I:
    1. Begin by executing a step through right front thrust kick, landing forward in a right neutral bow.

    2. Step into a front crossover and execute a right leg knife-edge kick, landing forward in a right neutral bow.

    3. Execute a shuffle round kick, landing in a right neutral bow.

    4. Execute a spinning back kick into which you plant into a left neutral bow.

    Drop your right foot back toward 9 o'clock so that you are facing 3 o'clock.


    Set II:
    1. Execute a right step-through knife-edge kick, landing in a right neutral bow.

    2. Follow that with a left foot shuffle and a right front snap kick staying in the right neutral bow.

    3. Follow that with a left foot shuffle and a right round kick staying in the right neutral bow.

    4. Follow with a left foot shuffle and then execute a right rear kick, and with the right leg, land in a left neutral bow facing 6 o'clock.

    Step back again so you end up in a right neutral bow facing 6 o'clock.



    Set III:
    1. Execute a left leg spinning back kick, landing in a left neutral bow.

    2. Follow with a left shuffle and a round kick, landing in a left neutral bow.

    3. Follow that with a left shuffle and a front snap kick, landing in a left neutral bow.

    4. Follow that with a left shuffle knife-edge kick, landing in a left neutral bow.

    Drop your right foot back towards 3 o'clock so that you are in a left neutral bow facing 9 o'clock.


    Set IV:
    1. Execute a step-through right round kick and land in a right neutral bow.

    2. Follow that with a left step through spinning rear kick, landing in a left neutral bow.

    3. After that, execute a right front kick landing forward in a right neutral bow.

    4. Follow that with a left step-through knife-edge kick, landing a horse stance facing 12 o'clock.
    Attention Stance.

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    Other than my instructor I am the only other person that remembers this set. No one else was taught it. I helps you with your foot works and kicks of course.
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    Default Re: May 2006 Set of the Month - Kicking Set

    In Set I - Kick 4 is a "Left" spinning back kick. Perhaps that doesn't need to be spelled out, but I will anyway .

    In Set IV, our school executes the kicks as:
    • Right Front Kick
    • Left Roundhouse Kick
    • Right Spinning Back Kick
    • Left Side Kick
    The biggest challenge in this set is the difficulty in memorizing the order of the kicks. There seems little in available mnemonics to aid the process. Here are some of the memory tips I have used.

    Set I & Set IV start with a Front Kick.
    Roundhouse and Back Kicks are always next to each other.
    Set II is Right Kicks.
    Set III is Left Kicks.
    Set III is the reverse order of Set II.

    Good Luck Everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerkarate
    Other than my instructor I am the only other person that remembers this set. No one else was taught it.
    Why didn't anyone learn it?
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    Default Re: May 2006 Set of the Month - Kicking Set

    Ed Parker modified the fourth side of the Kicking Set with Tom Kelley in the mid-1980s although few Kenpo instructors have made the change to their teaching curriculum. The reason for the modification is simple. The first kick in side one is a front kick; the first kick in side two is a side kick and; the first kick in side three is a spinning back kick. Due to this theme in the kicking pattern, one would only assume that the first kick in the last side would be a roundhouse kick, not a front kick as was originally designed. This way Kicking Set would provide a different type of kick on the first kick in each direction. Of course, the order of the kicks is not what is important but rather that the kicks are done properly, which accounts for at least one of the reasons why many instructors today haven’t made the changes made to the last side of the set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michaeledward
    In Set I - Kick 4 is a "Left" spinning back kick. Perhaps that doesn't need to be spelled out, but I will anyway .

    In Set IV, our school executes the kicks as:
    • Right Front Kick
    • Left Roundhouse Kick
    • Right Spinning Back Kick
    • Left Side Kick
    "Set I & Set IV start with a Front Kick."

    Good Luck Everyone.
    Now can anyone tell me who pointed out this illogical start to the 4th Site or Set and Mr. Parker agreed it needed to be modified? Hmmm.... who do we know who is really logical and a member of the Board? Mr. Kelly did create the set, that I am certain of, as that is where I learned it in the early 80's.

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    By the way, that was Tom Kelly, Sr. I was referring to above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Billings
    By the way, that was Tom Kelly, Sr. I was referring to above.

    -Michael
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    Default Re: May 2006 Set of the Month - Kicking Set

    I remember when I learned this. I was practicing in my bedroom in the dark, so that I would not wake anyone. Dark wasn't such a wonderful idea. Or so thought my bedside lamp before it died. CRASH!

    No one was sleeping anymore, and I had glass all over the carpet.

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    Default Re: May 2006 Set of the Month - Kicking Set

    We do everything the same on this with the Michaeledward ending. Kids are taught to do wheel kicks in place of roundhouses and they don't do it in a square- they do one line at a time just facing one direction. We always teach to try to keep your head level throughout (no bobbing up and down).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Billings
    Now can anyone tell me who pointed out this illogical start to the 4th Side or Set ...
    -Michael
    But Tom Kelly, Sr. was not the person who analyzed and recommended the change to Kicking Set #1. Anyone know who was?

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    Default Re: May 2006 Set of the Month - Kicking Set

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Billings
    Now can anyone tell me who pointed out this illogical start to the 4th Site or Set and Mr. Parker agreed it needed to be modified? Hmmm.... who do we know who is really logical and a member of the Board? Mr. Kelly did create the set, that I am certain of, as that is where I learned it in the early 80's.

    -Michael
    First, it's not an illogical start unless you have OCD. (Or CDO syndrome if you rearrange it in the appropriate alphabetical order.)

    I am interested who made the change.

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    Like my writing "Site" instead of "Side" and I do not have the permissions to change it ... I tried erasing it with an eraser on my screen. No, I am not Obsessive about anything ... not me, <erase, erase, erase>.

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    Default Re: May 2006 Set of the Month - Kicking Set

    Here's ours:

    Set I:
    Step through R front kick
    Front cross R roundhouse kick
    Rear cross R side kick
    Shuffle R foot to Left foot as you turn to face 6:00 for a
    Single switch L back kick.
    Do the opposite leg on the way back.

    Set II:
    Step through R side kick
    Hopping R front kick
    Hopping R roundhouse kick
    Hopping R back kick
    Again opposite leg on the way back.

    Set III: (kicks in reverse order of II)
    Spinning L back kick
    Front cross R roundhouse kick
    Hopping R front kick
    Rear cross R side kick
    opposite leg on the way back

    Set IV:
    Step through R front kick
    Step through L roundhouse kick
    Step through R back kick
    Step through L side kick
    opposite on the way back

    Set V:
    Sets I - IV put together one after another in a large rectangle.

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    As I said earlier, Mr. Parker definitly included the change to a right roundhouse kick starting the 4th wall or Set.

    In my school, and many others, at the end of the 4th wall, after the left step-through knife-edge, we plant into our horse facing 12:00 coordinating our salute with the foot hitting the ground. The left leg then shifts back into a right neutral bow, and we start the left side, which continues the square pattern but covers at each corner such that now we are doing a counter-clockwise square.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Billings
    But Tom Kelly, Sr. was not the person who analyzed and recommended the change to Kicking Set #1. Anyone know who was?
    I think the individual that knows hasn't been on in a while. Someone needs to go wake him up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfarnsworth
    I think the individual that knows hasn't been on in a while. Someone needs to go wake him up.
    I agreee 100%, anyone that has regualr access to any of the seniors should encourage them to post here on KenpoTalk.
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    Default Re: May 2006 Set of the Month - Kicking Set

    Kicking Set has once again become the set of the month. Lets see if we can expand on what has been posted so far.
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    Default Re: May 2006 Set of the Month - Kicking Set

    I learned a more basic kicking set from Doc Chapel. I don't have time to write it out just now, it was roundhouse and front kicks form the front and back leg, left and right each... that is, each leg did each kick from the front and back position.

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    Default Re: May 2006 Set of the Month - Kicking Set

    The set for June 2008 is Kicking Set again. Lets see if we have any new insight.
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