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    Default April 2006 Technique of the Month - Five Swords

    Five Swords (Front- Right Step-Through Punch)
    1. An attacker at 12 o'clock comes at you with a right step-through punch.

    2. Step your right foot to 12 o'clock into a right neutral bow facing 12 o'clock as you execute a right inward block to your attacker's forearm, your left hand checking at the wrist.

    3. Immediately execute a right outward handsword to your attacker's neck.

    4. Pivot into a right forward bow facing 12 o'clock as you execute a left palm strike to your attacker's face. (Your right hand will cock at your right hip.)

    5. Take advantage of the anticipated response (i.e. their gut jutting forward due to the strike) and execute a right uppercut punch as you pivot back into a right neutral bow facing 12 o'clock.

    6. Slide your foot to 4:30 as you execute a left outward handsword to your attacker's neck.

    7. Pivot into a right neutral bow facing 10:30 as you pull your attacker in and execute a right inward handsword to the back of your attacker's neck.

    8. Cross out towards 4:30.
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    I did this tech. on thursday with an attacker who bent too far foward and downward inbetween my strike 4 & 5. On the second try I noticed he did the same movement. He told me I was taking him down too much after I hooked his neck. I decided to punch downward into the base of his skull when I unwinded into a neutral. He was laying flat on the floor. It worked well for me.

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    Right before they bend we go into a forward bow up the circle as they move down it (Master Tatum showed me this). That fixed that problem for me.

    What extension does everyone do? I like the left eye hook, right handsword to the throat and side kick to the nearest target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfarnsworth
    I did this tech. on thursday with an attacker who bent too far foward and downward inbetween my strike 4 & 5. On the second try I noticed he did the same movement. He told me I was taking him down too much after I hooked his neck. I decided to punch downward into the base of his skull when I unwinded into a neutral. He was laying flat on the floor. It worked well for me.
    I have been taught this technique two different ways.

    1. When I first learned it I was told to crane his kneck as you did and than chop the back of the kneck while settling in a neutral bow.

    2. Mr. Joe showed me that you should do the left chop to the kneck and settle into a neutral bow while doing your last chop to the collar bone.

    I prefer #2
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    I've got an 8 & 9.

    After the right downward chop to the neck, I do a left, palm up lifting chop to the throat in a closed-kneel stance or neutral bow.

    Then (9) a right reverse chop to the throat, in a reverse bow, followed by a rear kick on the way out.

    Then cross out.

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    Default Re: April 2006 Technique of the Month - Five Swords

    Amy, I like your extra bits to it Ill hafta at least try to the heelpalm next time I get a chance to use someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miyu
    Amy, I like your extra bits to it Ill hafta at least try to the heelpalm next time I get a chance to use someone.
    Thanks. I don't recall where I learned that. I was doing it form 4 towards the end until I noticed that it wasn't in there. Very annoying. I think it was from the Tracy 9 swords or something.

    I like your last two words 'use someone'. That's funny. (Here uke uke uke....here uke uke uke.)

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    Default Re: April 2006 Technique of the Month - Five Swords

    Uke's are scarce to me ATM LOL, so I suppose I need to entice them...maybe wave some kibble bits LOL

    I have an insert of my own as well...I just do it cuz it goes off my body well...

    Toward the end, when I do the left chop, then right chop....as I rebound that right chop to the neck, my left inserts a thrust to the midsection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amylong
    I've got an 8 & 9.

    After the right downward chop to the neck, I do a left, palm up lifting chop to the throat in a closed-kneel stance or neutral bow.

    Then (9) a right reverse chop to the throat, in a reverse bow, followed by a rear kick on the way out.

    Then cross out.

    --Amy
    That would be the extension, sounds good to me.
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    Default Re: April 2006 Technique of the Month - Five Swords

    That is the Tracy's technique 7 Swords that Amy is describing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerkarate
    That would be the extension, sounds good to me.
    The base move, for me, ends at the uppercut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad
    Five Swords
    1. An attacker at 12 o'clock comes at you with a right step-through punch.
    2. Step your right foot to 12 o'clock into a right neutral bow facing 12 o'clock as you execute a right inward block to your attacker's forearm, your left hand checking at the wrist.
    I've learned it as both straight punch and roundhouse. The difference (to me) is that for a straight punch the right handsword is a minor block and contacts a half beat or more before the right inward. For a roundhouse, it is a double block, both landing simultanoeusly. The reason you need the double block for a roundhouse if you are going inside like this is that the strike has a lot of its' force going perpendicular to the strong axis of your stance. You need a block that stops the swing right there and temporarily disrupts his ballance and coordination. Also helps stop it from hooking.

    3. Immediately execute a right outward handsword to your attacker's neck.
    4. Pivot into a right forward bow facing 12 o'clock as you execute a left palm strike to your attacker's face. (Your right hand will cock at your right hip.)
    We do a four finger thrust to his eyes. The forward bow gives reach to the trailing hand and allows a stance change with the next move (#5). The thrust, whether fingers to eyes or a heel palm, may not even make contact if he jerks his head back. But it is that reaction that we are after. As his head goes back his stomach juts forward. The internal organs, especially the bladder, are pulled closer to the stomache cavity wall, and the muscles are stretched and weakened, giving you an unprotected target for your major strike next.

    5. Take advantage of the anticipated response (i.e. their gut jutting forward due to the strike) and execute a right uppercut punch as you pivot back into a right neutral bow facing 12 o'clock.
    We target the bladder, as per above.

    6. Slide your foot to 4:30 as you execute a left outward handsword to your attacker's neck.
    As katsudo_karate said, "Right before they bend we go into a forward bow up the circle as they move down."

    7. Pivot into a right neutral bow facing 10:30 as you pull your attacker in and execute a right inward handsword to the back of your attacker's neck.
    When I did this tech with Mr. Panting, he had me work on changing the timeing, changing my major and minor moves, formulating, and generally rebuilding it. He siad it is an excellant tool for learning to restructure a technique. As usual, he was correct.

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    Five Swords is the coolest kenpo move ever. I recently taught it to my yellow belts and that's one of them I can count on all of them remembering.

    It seems that the tools for this techniques have changed over the years.

    When I first learned it, it was a double chop (2 swords), right chop to the neck (3), 4 finger eye-poke (4) and finger thrust to the solar plexus. (5).

    I've never been comfortable with the finger thrust to the plexus. I don't jam my fingers in enough sandboxes to be confident that they would be like little steal rods. I definitely like the punch better.

    And I also prefer the palm to the 4 finger thrust. It's an easier target to hit and, as we'v dicussed in other threads, I don't know that I want to blind someone for life just for being stupid enough to try and hit me.

    I'm not above knocking someone one his butt though.

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    I wrote this a while back for the North American Kenpo Association newsletter.

    For what its worth here it is:

    Technique Targets: Five Swords – By Martin Seck

    One of my favorite techniques for so many different reasons. The multi-dimensional striking aspect on the first movement. The many checks, the Angles of disturbance, deflection, departure and execution!

    Instead of getting into the exact breakdown of the technique or the extension lets talk about the targets, their location and possible damage you may cause to them.

    First series of movements in Five Swords is done in one motion. This is our multi-dimensional strike. Three targets at once.

    Radial Nerve (inside the lower forearm near the wrist): High intensity can break the radial bone.

    Right Bicep (the major muscle on the inside of the humerous bone): high intensity can cause immense pain and temporary paralysis.

    Right Knee (knee joint): dislocation of knee joint and possible permanent loss of use of the leg.

    Our Second series has a few options here are two possible targets:

    Brachial Plexus (on the side of the neck approximately six inches from the base): High intensity can cause unconsciousness or death

    Mandibular Angle (below the ear underneath the jaw hinge: Also with high intensity can cause unconsciousness or death

    The third set of targets in Five Swords:

    The Eyes: Causing temporary or permanent loss of vision or the eye itself.

    The fourth target set is either:

    Solar Plexus: (located just under the sternum): can cause loss of breath, physical collapse, possibly even unconsciousness.

    Left rib cage: (bony area protecting vital organs in the torso): can break the rib, severe pain, loss of breath.

    The fifth set includes the last two strikes in the base technique:

    Cervical Vertebra: (on the back of the neck below the skull): stunning pain, whip lash, dislocation of bones, unconsciousness, severe trauma or death.

    In conclusion you can see the “martial” side of this very practical art we study, American Kenpo. Practice this technique with care and only use your arts to defend yourself.

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    Default Re: April 2006 Technique of the Month - Five Swords

    I never seem to get bast doing a left owtward extended block and a right inward block. My opponets just collapse to the floor shame really cos I quite enjoy the motion of the technique

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    Most probably in the street after the FIRST handsword to the throat this is going to end it and like you said possibly with the blocks (strikes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenposikh
    I never seem to get bast doing a left owtward extended block and a right inward block. My opponets just collapse to the floor shame really cos I quite enjoy the motion of the technique
    Well, you are just a powerhouse of kenponess. You should try easing up a little and not destroying your oppoenent's right away. Play with them a little -- like a cat with a mouse. Taunt them. Tease them. Make them think they have a chance.

    THEN destroy all hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amylong
    Well, you are just a powerhouse of kenponess. You should try easing up a little and not destroying your oppoenent's right away. Play with them a little -- like a cat with a mouse. Taunt them. Tease them. Make them think they have a chance.

    THEN destroy all hope.

    --Amy

    Heheh someone has been reading Sun Tzu's Art of War.

    Paraphrase: An enemy with no hope fights with nothing to lose, give them hope of esacpe and they fight with this in their minds, then they will fall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katsudo_karate
    Heheh someone has been reading Sun Tzu's Art of War.

    Paraphrase: An enemy with no hope fights with nothing to lose, give them hope of escape and they fight with this in their minds, then they will fall.
    No, but good ideas tend to spread.
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    Our base technique is the same as the one outlined in the first post.
    Quote Originally Posted by amylong
    I've got an 8 & 9.

    After the right downward chop to the neck, I do a left, palm up lifting chop to the throat in a closed-kneel stance or neutral bow.

    Then (9) a right reverse chop to the throat, in a reverse bow, followed by a rear kick on the way out.

    Then cross out.

    --Amy
    We do a slight variation of this.
    8. allow the left crane hook (that we used to bend them forward) to slide off and then slice through the eye with a two finger eye-hook as we strike with the right handsword to the back of the neck (the two finger eye-hook will turn their face toward you). Allow the right hand to continue along its path (basically striking then sliding off)

    9. pivot to a reverse bow as you execute a right obscure handsword to the throat and a left downward claw through the face.

    10. execute a stiff-leg lifting rear-kick to the groin and cover out.

    note: In our system, the base technique (steps 1-7) is taught at blue belt. The extra steps are taught at 1st Brown
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