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    Default March 2006 Tracy's Technique Of The Month - Dancer

    What is the signifigance of this technique? What does it teach us? Why is it in the system?
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    Dancer has to be looked at in the context of the other escapes for a rear choke.

    The first lesson is how to apply and set a proper two hand rear neck choke. It is not a rear two hand neck grab or a rear shoulder pinch.

    Crash of the Eagle is an easier escape but will not work if the victim is pushed tightly up against a wall. Neither will Crash of the Eagle (retreating step), unless you are strong enough to push off of the wall.

    That's where Dancer comes in. Some martial artists think that they only need one escape for a particular attack and discount variables such as environment.

    Also, the lessons learned in Dancer are needed for The Bridge. You can not pull an attacker's arms down across your shoulders in order to break the elbows via the Bridge if the rear choke is properly set. Neither will you be able to lift the attacker's left hand from your neck. The Bridge works because of the lesson learned in the Dancer.

    There is, of course, more to it than that, but those are some ideas to consider.

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    Default Re: March 2006 Tracy's Technique Of The Month - Dancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hanna
    Dancer has to be looked at in the context of the other escapes for a rear choke.

    The first lesson is how to apply and set a proper two hand rear neck choke. It is not a rear two hand neck grab or a rear shoulder pinch.

    Crash of the Eagle is an easier escape but will not work if the victim is pushed tightly up against a wall. Neither will Crash of the Eagle (retreating step), unless you are strong enough to push off of the wall.

    That's where Dancer comes in. Some martial artists think that they only need one escape for a particular attack and discount variables such as environment.

    Also, the lessons learned in Dancer are needed for The Bridge. You can not pull an attacker's arms down across your shoulders in order to break the elbows via the Bridge if the rear choke is properly set. Neither will you be able to lift the attacker's left hand from your neck. The Bridge works because of the lesson learned in the Dancer.

    There is, of course, more to it than that, but those are some ideas to consider.

    Jim
    I also look at Dancer as the precursor to Bridge. Also, if you look at Crash of the Eagle (E) where the initial step is to 7:30 as it is in Dancer, you will notice the two techniques basically accomplish the same escape, one going over the arms, the other going under.
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    Default Re: March 2006 Tracy's Technique Of The Month - Dancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hanna
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    Also, the lessons learned in Dancer are needed for The Bridge. You can not pull an attacker's arms down across your shoulders in order to break the elbows via the Bridge if the rear choke is properly set. Neither will you be able to lift the attacker's left hand from your neck. The Bridge works because of the lesson learned in the Dancer.

    There is, of course, more to it than that, but those are some ideas to consider.

    Jim
    HI Jim,

    Hope you won't mind a question here... Do you apply the initial response as a bilateral thumb break? If not, I would really like to see a layout of how you do the technique...

    Thanks,

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    Default Re: March 2006 Tracy's Technique Of The Month - Dancer

    I think that breaking the thumb would be extremely difficult against a properly set rear two hand choke. -- Pressure can be exerted against the left thumb by pulling the attacker's hand forward (although you won't be able to pull it off) while turning the head, thusly creating a "bridge" to escape under since the attacker's left elbow will/should raise to ease the pressure against his thumb. However, rather than do all that, all one has to do is apply pressure against the attacker's hands and drop under them via Dancer, rather than trying to lift the attacking left arm up and off the neck. Hit the same angle (7:30) by dancer stepping and his hands will be perfectly crossed for the break.

    Hope that response was the right one for your question.

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    Default Re: March 2006 Tracy's Technique Of The Month - Dancer

    Cool... And thanks, Jim. I have been just used to working the technique as a grab to the wrists and a pull down the front of the chest so that the thumbs dislocate against the back of your neck.

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