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    Default Basic Blocks: What's The Magic Angle?

    Well? What's the magic angle and why? It's okay to cheat and review your material to see what Chuck says about it.

    Why do you think it's so much different that what you'd see in TKD?
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    Default Re: Basic Blocks: What's The Magic Angle?

    The magic angle would actually be magic circles, but you have a strongest direction from your points of reference given you are anchoring your elbow properly and relaxing the shoulder, et cetera.
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    Default Re: Basic Blocks: What's The Magic Angle?

    The human body has specific angles from which it derives its mechanical structure of maximum effectiveness. When it comes to the subject of blocking, there are multiple angles that enter the anatomical geometrical equation. The position and type of stance, relative to the specific block, as well as the angular relationship of the upper arm relative to the lower arm are all factors, along with the Index Process of execution that supports the action by creating anatomical congruency in the final position. Although the angle does not always appear in the same, action, or place with the same function, it is present in all blocking of maximum anatomical function.

    45-degrees.
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    Default Re: Basic Blocks: What's The Magic Angle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    The human body has specific angles from which it derives its mechanical structure of maximum effectiveness. When it comes to the subject of blocking, there are multiple angles that enter the anatomical geometrical equation. The position and type of stance, relative to the specific block, as well as the angular relationship of the upper arm relative to the lower arm are all factors, along with the Index Process of execution that supports the action by creating anatomical congruency in the final position. Although the angle does not always appear in the same, action, or place with the same function, it is present in all blocking of maximum anatomical function.

    45-degrees.
    What the good Doc said!!!!

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    Default Re: Basic Blocks: What's The Magic Angle?

    It's good to see that good Kenpo is good Kenpo regardless of the alphabet soup we put in front of or behind it.

    All hail 45 degrees! No matter which direction it comes from.

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    Default Re: Basic Blocks: What's The Magic Angle?

    Quote Originally Posted by bdparsons View Post
    It's good to see that good Kenpo is good Kenpo regardless of the alphabet soup we put in front of or behind it.

    All hail 45 degrees! No matter which direction it comes from.

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    Well not so much "good kenpo," as good anatomy. Styles have preferences for execution, but those stylistic preferences should be over-ridden by anatomical mandates of maximum efficiency. The reason I preferenced the answer is because the angle is not always obvious, but is ever present. Questions abound such as:

    "If the stance changes relative to the action, does that not alter the angle of execution?" or

    "Does weight distribution play a part in the assignment of the block and therefore the angle?" But most importantly

    "You cannot view the degree question from the simplicity of "External Angle of Execution." Sometimes the angles are external body parts and degree angles relative to each other, or not externally referenced but internally."

    These angles and methods are easily demonstrable. A super nice Kenpo guy came through a couple days ago, and I shared the base execution of an inward block with him, as I wrapped both arms around his block, "figure four" style, and attempted to collapse his block with my entire body weight and strength. He prevailed with a minimum of effort. Why? Because not only his angle was correct but, the method and manner of execution backed it up by creating internal and externall referenced degree angles that optimized the human body mandates for the action.

    He frequents this forum. Perhaps when he returns to his normal routine, he'll share the experience here.
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    Default Re: Basic Blocks: What's The Magic Angle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    These angles and methods are easily demonstrable. A super nice Kenpo guy came through a couple days ago, and I shared the base execution of an inward block with him, as I wrapped both arms around his block, "figure four" style, and attempted to collapse his block with my entire body weight and strength. He prevailed with a minimum of effort. Why? Because not only his angle was correct but, the method and manner of execution backed it up by creating internal and externall referenced degree angles that optimized the human body mandates for the action.
    i like that idea.. i need to try the whole figure 4 position thing... Iv done the same thing but with someone pushing/leaning against the upper forearm.. trying to budge, and its pretty nice.. but move one foot out of alignment, or turn forward and the whole thing collapses.

    Homework for everyone.. lets count all the 45 degree angles in a good neutral bow with an inward block. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by madeku View Post
    i like that idea.. i need to try the whole figure 4 position thing... Iv done the same thing but with someone pushing/leaning against the upper forearm.. trying to budge, and its pretty nice.. but move one foot out of alignment, or turn forward and the whole thing collapses.

    Homework for everyone.. lets count all the 45 degree angles in a good neutral bow with an inward block. lol
    Good idea sir.
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