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    Belt meanings
    By Iron Leopard - Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:39:06 GMT

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    Can someone list the belt meanings. As my original belts are.

    white
    yellow
    orange
    purple
    blue
    blue with green stipe
    green
    green with brown stripe
    brown with 1 stripe
    brown with 2 stripes
    brown with 3 stripes
    black

    I understand what my teachers and myself are looking for in each progression weather it's knowledge of the basics and basic balance or more fluidity in movement and sparring or power etc but...

    What do the colors of the belts signify as you understand them.

    Some of you have the order a little different and even a few of these colors not in your system.

    Thanks!


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    They mean your pants stay up with a little more flair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Dave in da house View Post
    They mean your pants stay up with a little more flair.
    ROFLMAO

    As I understand it, the belt colors are a "Western Thing." They are simply meant to allow for a visual reference that a short term goal has been achieved. In the "East" they did not use belt colors. Knowledge was what was important (and IMHO, still should be.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Dave in da house View Post
    They mean your pants stay up with a little more flair.
    Keeps the top securred as well. That's a great answer.


    I thought you were suppose to start out with a white belt and when you trained your belt got dirty. Eventually it turns black when you have been at it a long, long, long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arizona Angel View Post
    Keeps the top securred as well. That's a great answer.


    I thought you were suppose to start out with a white belt and when you trained your belt got dirty. Eventually it turns black when you have been at it a long, long, long time.
    Sorry, but that's a "myth." There are others, but that's the most popular. It does sound pretty cool though, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Crippler View Post
    Sorry, but that's a "myth." There are others, but that's the most popular. It does sound pretty cool though, huh?
    Yeah, well, I only hope to study that long...but the colors are much prettier than dirt, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Crippler View Post
    Sorry, but that's a "myth." There are others, but that's the most popular. It does sound pretty cool though, huh?
    really i heard the story like it would go thru all sorts of changes.. green was mildew, red was blood, i dont wanna think what yellow was.. prolly sweat.. lets say sweat. :-p

    but really, i thought the reason we dont wash our belts, dont let it touch the ground unless you're wearing it, etc.. was because of that tradition the belts would get dirtier.. makes sense in the olden days battlefield..

    that sucks its just a myth.. you do have to admit tho, if a black belt is worn enough it starts to become white.. if it holds up that long..

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    In TKD the Koreans tell students that the Belt mean the following

    White - purity and open to knowledge
    Yellow - inspired the sun and light, teaching them to set very high goals
    Green - represents the growth of nature reflecting the growth of the student
    Blue - represents the water the life blood of eaverything
    Red - is for bllod, while the student has made great progress they are now very dangerous and often spill more blood here than another level while they grow into the maturity of their new skills
    Black - the solid darkness is to represent solidness of their core
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Broad View Post
    In TKD the Koreans tell students that the Belt mean the following

    White - purity and open to knowledge
    Yellow - inspired the sun and light, teaching them to set very high goals
    Green - represents the growth of nature reflecting the growth of the student
    Blue - represents the water the life blood of eaverything
    Red - is for bllod, while the student has made great progress they are now very dangerous and often spill more blood here than another level while they grow into the maturity of their new skills
    Black - the solid darkness is to represent solidness of their core
    I heard about the same thing while training in Chung Do Kwan TKD.
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    Our origonal Kenpo school had only 3 colors of Belt. White,Brown and Black

    On the white belt you would get brown stripes. I believe it was

    1 stripe on one side for Yellow
    1 stripe on each side for Orange
    2 stripes for Purple on each side
    3 stripes for Blue on each side
    4 stripes for Green on each side

    Brown Belt with 1 Black stripe 3rd. Degree
    Brown Belt with 2 Black stripes 2nd Degree
    Brown Belt with 3 Black stripes 1st. Degree

    Black

    That was a long time ago.

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    edit: nevermind, read the post wrong.
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    Yellow through 10th Degree Black Belt
    (from Eric D. Lamkin and Larry Tatum).

    The following are the objectives to achieve the qualities and characteristics of each belt:

    Yellow Belt
    A Yellow Belt practitioner is given an introduction to the American Kenpo System while developing a working knowledge of the basics – the foundation of the Art.


    Orange Belt
    An Orange Belt practitioner must strive for the development of proper form so as to enhance the effectiveness of the basics.


    Purple Belt
    A Purple Belt practitioner must strive for the development of speed achieved through economy of motion by executing basics with proper form.


    Blue Belt
    A Blue Belt practitioner must possess a proper display of power achieved by the correct application of form plus speed of the basics.


    Green Belt
    A Green Belt practitioner must strive for the development of timing achieved by the proper application of breath control.


    3rd Degree Brown Belt
    A 3rd Degree Brown Belt practitioner must strive for the development and display of focused strikes achieved by adding power to breath control.


    2nd Degree Brown Belt
    A 2nd Degree Brown Belt practitioner must enhance his/her physical fitness in order to increase ones stamina and to make one more tolerant of pain.


    1st Degree Brown Belt
    A 1st Degree Brown Belt practitioner must strive for the development of mental skills by possessing a working knowledge of the principles, concepts and theories of American Kenpo Karate.


    1st Degree Black Belt
    A 1st Degree Black Belt must demonstrate his/her expertise in American Kenpo by properly applying these three formulae:

    Knowledge of Basics + Form + Speed = Power
    Power + Breath Control = Focus
    Focus + Physical Conditioning + Working Knowledge of Concepts, Principles and Theories = Expertise in individual self-defense skills.



    1st Degree Black Belt through 10th Degree Black Belt
    (from The Qualities and Characteristics of Rank, by Larry G. Tatum)

    First Degree Black Belt
    A first-degree black belt (junior instructor) has achieved a certain level of physical expertise. Understanding the concepts and principles of motion, he has become a formidable fighter defensively and offensively. However, his skills outstrip his ability to communicate and teach, so teaching is essential to any further progress.


    Second Degree Black Belt
    For the second-degree black belt (associate instructor), the ability to teach has begun to reinforce newfound skills. He has discovered that "to teach is to learn," and this is accomplished by a re-evaluation of past mistakes and bad habits. A new sense of responsibility appears, and he must begin to cultivate an image of authority within the school.


    Third Degree Black Belt
    At third degree (senior instructor), the black belt fins that first and second-degree black belt look to him for guidance and direction in the execution of techniques. He now has the authority within the school environment to organize a curriculum, express policy and set up tests.


    Fourth Degree Black Belt
    At fourth-degree black belt (head instructor), the black belt acquires the privilege of overriding others within the school after careful discussion, as well as a more mature ability to communicate that allows teaching first, second and third degree black belts. Together with these responsibilities, the fourth-degree black belt assists the master instructor in seminars, demonstration and other public functions at which the school and the art are represented. His physical expertise should be noticeably above that of more junior black belts, particularly in terms of speed, power and timing.


    Fifth Degree Black Belt
    The fifth-degree black belt (associate professor), has reached the level at which he begins to teach the art beyond the realm of the school. Although the school curriculum has been carefully spelled out, he is no longer bound by it and has acquired the ability to tailor it to fit individual student needs. At fifth degree, in short, the black belt now moves on to a broader base of responsibility.


    Sixth Degree Black Belt
    The sixth-degree black belt (professor) has now reached a level at which he can not only teach the art but also begin to positively formulate its concepts and principles outside his school. As a result, caution becomes imperative. He has advanced to a critical point in his art, and it is at this point that his accumulation of time in grade becomes his defense against teaching what he cannot later retract.


    Seventh Degree Black Belt
    At seventh-degree black belt (senior professor), a noticeable change takes place in the black belt’s understanding of his art. He becomes capable of ascertaining the problems that lie within the teaching of the curriculum. Working from a broader base and beginning to teach locally, nationally and internationally what was once taught mainly at home, he now recognizes that his former ways may not work abroad and must be tailored to particular minds, cultures and agendas. He has realized that while the language of the art remains the same, the varied applications of that language must be fitted to the environment. In brief, a seventh degree who goes out to teach in the world must have learned to tailor his teachings to the place and the people.


    Eighth Degree Black Belt
    At eighth-degree black belt (associate master), the black belt’s concerns shift to exploring areas of physical mastership that were not visible to him in the past. His art eventually begins to expand physically and mentally, so much so that a definite physical change becomes evident, expressing the fact that he has begun to settle into a physical mastery. Thus, movements are less contrived because they are in the process of becoming embodied within him.


    Ninth Degree Black Belt
    At ninth-degree black belt (master of the arts), the black belt has reached to a level where, at any given moment, he can choreograph a technique by reaching a "super-conscious" level. No longer separate from the art he has internalized, he has at last embodied it and become an element of it. What he teaches and what he physically embodies are indivisible. His contributions to the martial arts inside and outside the community are many, and his rank is backed by at least 25 years of sacrifice and service.


    Tenth Degree Black Belt
    Tenth-degree black belt (senior master of the arts) represent a lifelong endeavor to help all humankind. The rank is so respected by peers and students that the person’s word affects the course of the art.


    "(The titles for the 10 ranks of black belt and the basic ideas of the differences between them came from Ed Parker.
    I have added a few needed definitions and explanations and provided interpretations.) - Larry G. Tatum"

    PARKER - HERMAN - SECK

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