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brn.blt. rankings
By donald - Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:25:28 GMT

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This is probably gonna sound stupid, but here it goes. Did'nt the EPAK brn. ranking system work as follows? 1st level after adv.green is 3rd brn. signified by 1blk. stripe on belt, 2nd. brn. 2 stripes, and 1st brn. 3 stripes? The way I remember this being explained to me. You advanced through these levels much like a contest. With the highest level denoted as 1st place. Hence the 1st brn. designation being the higher level. For some reason I have confused myself considerably regarding the abovementioned. I apologize in advance to anyone who regards this question as a waste of time.

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brn.blt. rankings
By donald - Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:25:28 GMT

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This is probably gonna sound stupid, but here it goes. Did'nt the EPAK brn. ranking system work as follows? 1st level after adv.green is 3rd brn. signified by 1blk. stripe on belt, 2nd. brn. 2 stripes, and 1st brn. 3 stripes? The way I remember this being explained to me. You advanced through these levels much like a contest. With the highest level denoted as 1st place. Hence the 1st brn. designation being the higher level. For some reason I have confused myself considerably regarding the abovementioned. I apologize in advance to anyone who regards this question as a waste of time.

1stJohn1:9
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Yes, that's correct, although Mr. Speakman is changing it to the other way around. I fear this may cause considerable confusion, but it's most certainly not my call.

--Amy

[Rob Broad]

3rd Brown is 3 levels from Black Belt
2nd Brown is 2 levels from Black Belt
1st Brown is 1 level from Black Belt

That is the easiest way to remember things.

[SifuDangeRuss]

Yes, that's correct, although Mr. Speakman is changing it to the other way around. I fear this may cause considerable confusion, but it's most certainly not my call.

--Amy

Then I would side with Mr Speakman. (No Amy, not just to ruffle your feathers) It has to do with logic and consistancy. Kenpo is perhaps one of the most organized and logical approaches to martial arts I have ever encountered, but this is counter intuitive. Why do we count backwards at Brown then reverse directions again at black? Or do we all start out as 10th degree blackbelts and chip away the degrees til we get to red? Mr Dimmick at one point did away with the colored belts comepletely and went to the Tip System even at lower levels. (And yes, we counted backwards, yet added tips) We wore a white belt with brown stripes, signifying we were working towards brown. Now if ya think that didn't cause confusion at tournements?!?

I cast my vote for consistancy and logic as opposed to the Have your cake and eat it, too position. So all but the really oldtimers in our school consider 1 tip, to be 1st degree. It just saves explaining something that really shouldn't matter anyway. I have cooler stuff to spend my time teaching.

[Celtic_Crippler]

Rank-Schmank..... just teach me something!!

[amylong]

Rank-Schmank..... just teach me something!!

Okay, I'll teach you something. The most accepted spelling for 'shmank' is without the c. lol.

Be in Florida.

[NickName99]

We start with 3 stripes then work down to one stripe than black test.
Its kinda backwards from the other belts but with brown we count down.

Young belts are upset that we take strips away but soon understand

[akskarate1]

I use it as a learning tool a timing process were the students take there techniques form a 3 count to a 2 count to 1 single move. This helps them put together different patterns of movement and combine them with our principles. It's easier to remember one single pattern then many single moves. Hope you can understand this just got tackled by my four boys gotta go kick some butt!!! LOL