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    Will American Kenpo survive?
    By OneKickWonder - Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:53:48 GMT

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    With the new BJJ "Revolution" is attention being drawn from the stand up arts? Will Kenpo die out as MMA and BJJ astound the world in the UFC, XFC, PRIDE, KOC, and other fight leagues? I know it wont completely die but just how much is Kenpo going to be affected?


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    With the new BJJ "Revolution" is attention being drawn from the stand up arts? Will Kenpo die out as MMA and BJJ astound the world in the UFC, XFC, PRIDE, KOC, and other fight leagues? I know it wont completely die but just how much is Kenpo going to be affected?


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    Default Re: MT: Will American Kenpo survive?

    I don't see how Kenpo even compairs to those other organizations.
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    I was in a class where a TKO teacher was asked in front of practitioners of a number of arts which one was best. "What do you love to do, that's the best art for you." The enthusiastic posts I read here and the fun quotes I see at the end lead me to believe a good number of people LOVE thier Kenpo. No worries.
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    Rob, behave yourself! (I couldn't resist that *grin*)

    Kenpo will survive and probably grow because of it. Every time there is a new flavor of the week (month,year, decade...) it introduces more people to the martial arts. When they get disillusioned with or tired of that flavor, they sometimeslook for something that suits their tastes better.

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    Luckily for us, SGM Parker had the forsight to design an art that will continue to evolve with the world around us. Will it die out? Not until there's peace on Earth, I guess.
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    First, I would like to introduce myself. I am James Tindall, President of the USKKA at www.uskka.com.

    Will Kenpo die out? An interesting question and one that I have struggled with myself for years. You see, I worked with Mr. Parker personally along with my head instructor Steve Snelson and also with his good friend Huk Planas. We used to convene in a couple of schools in Salt Lake and Provo. I remember the passion that we all had for Kenpo. For me it has never died. Although I have taken numerous other arts, Kenpo is my love and it is a part of me. In my opinion, as long as there is an ember of desire to constantly improve yourself in the art, Kenpo will never die.

    What concerns me is that so many have so little passion for anything other than to talk. Mr. Snelson and Parker once told me that if people put forth as much effort in Kenpo as in mouthing off about useless things, they'd all be grandmasters. I don't know if they really believed this, but the point was to put your best effort in yourself. In my opinion, there is always one student in the room and that is me so, I can always learn. If we are to ensure that Kenpo survives, and I believe its fighting principles are timeless, then it is up to those who practice it to pass it on. Whether or not you agree with one system or another, your passion for what you do will help the art transcend the negative. Which is why I wanted to post an answer for those who would criticize, but I see that my words are limited and will post another reply to that end.

    So, keep your passion and breathe the fire to others. Kenpo will not die if we come together as one. We should not be tribalized, but united in the cause, but for some being pc or argumentative is all they know and that is the real enemy. Who cares if I can beat your or you can beat me, that is not the goal; the goal is to pursue perfection and to be humble in the process. Remember that the best skilled individuals in any field of endeavor are not usually the best instructors. Thus, there is always one student the room, YOU!

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    The reason I came on and will now finish is that I was told that there was criticism about the "online instruction" link on the www.uskka.com site. Thus, I would like to make it clear, my goal is not to let Kenpo die. I have practiced it for over 30 years and in all that time I have only promoted 7 black belts, but have had a great many students. Once I reached over 10,000 hours of instruction time to students, I quit counting. For those who question, no, there will be no instruction online for promotion. The purpose is to teach and one day, if you live in China, El Salvador, or the many other countries I visit and teach in, you may be able to find an instructor and in so doing, will at least have some vestige of knowlegde w/o beginning from scratch. Then, you can excel your knowledge at a more rapid rate. The USKKA was formed in 1989 and was the first Kenpo site online. It was also formed after much discussion and disagreement with Mr. Parker. That's a basic history. If you want answers to questions, rather than speculate and preach your feelings about that which you know nothing, simply ask. I am always around. I am not a bb factory and refuse to be so. Once at a tournament with Mr. Parker in Kansas City, he signed some IIS books for several of my students and said, "This is my sytem and this is how I want it taught." I will always honor that request in teaching his Kenpo, 24 techniques per belt level, combat oriented for the street and not watered down.

    On any given day you may find me working with a SWAT team or military group, such as the training I am about to do in Mexico for the govt. I do not compromise and as a student and instructor hold you accountable for the knowledge that you are entrusted with and for the increase in skill level that is required. No online instruction can be used for testing, but it will keep my dream alive, which is to share Parker Kenpo with those interested. This is my desire and my passion. Thus, if you have questions, rather than post them on this forum or speculate, simply ask. Will Kenpo die? That is up to all of you and your passion for sharing it and living it.

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    First of all....Howdy and welcome to kenpotalk! We're glad to have you.

    I don't see how Kenpo can die out. Kenpo is too much fun.

    And too many people are passionate about it. As previously said, there will always be flavors of the week and kenpo will always look at those flavors, take the snippets that we like, and let them go on their merry ways.

    I love kenpo. Can't stay away. I know many others like that who are forced by life to take breaks, then always return with renewed enthusiasm.

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    check out my tag line... better to burn out than it is to rust~
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    A well rounded Martial Artist needs many different styles to be complete.

    If it's something you love, it can never die.
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    Rob, behave yourself! (I couldn't resist that *grin*)

    Kenpo will survive and probably grow because of it. Every time there is a new flavor of the week (month,year, decade...) it introduces more people to the martial arts. When they get disillusioned with or tired of that flavor, they sometimeslook for something that suits their tastes better.

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    Those of us who haae been around a spell, have seen the rise and fall of many a 'flavor of the day' arts...Ninjitsu anyone? Muay Thai? For that matter, anyone recall how many schools popped up waving our own banner shortly after Perfect Weapon hit the streets? (Even though many of them had no clue what kenpo was about, it was popular at that moment in time) What we need to acknowledge and realize is that each of these fads are in fact a boon to our industry and helps our cause and virtually gaurantees our survival. I suspect that the current epic rise in popularity of The Ultimate Fighter, Pride, UFC, IFL, WFA, et al has helped to swell the ranks of most, if not all of our schools, because it's causing interest in the arts. People become aware, or their interest is rekindled do to the attention each of these crazes encites. Far as I'm concerned ? 3 Cheers for BJJ and I personally can't wait til the next Panultimate Art rears it's ugly head.

    (Besides bein' good kenpo enthusiasts, as we are exposed to other ideas and concepts we borrow, steal and design counter strategies and continue to evolve our art to encompass the changing times)

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    Oh and let us not fail to acknowledge the inimitable 'Billy Blanks' who while lining his own pockets prodigiously, also helped divirsify our classrooms and bring yet another group of perspective students into our doors.
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    Default Re: MT: Will American Kenpo survive?

    I am not too worried about Kenpo surviving. It always has. Remember the Ninjutsu Craze of a few years ago. All you could read about in Black Belt Magazine was about Ninjutsu. Well,It faded and Kenpo survived. Besides most of us have added ground fighting to our kenpo. It is no longer true that you get a Karate man off his feet and you have him defeated.

    The mixed MMA is just that. Not Many of us are going to go out and fight professionaly. Those that need to learn those other arts do so. They need them to survive in the Ring. WE don't. I will admit it is fun to watch them and see their different skills in action,But it will never replace Kenpo. don't worry Kenpo will survive.

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