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    By JasonASmith - Wed, 04 Oct 2006 02:40:49 GMT

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    Hello all,
    I have a question for all of the Kenpo folks...
    Why are there so MANY strikes in Kenpo?
    What I mean is this: I have seen numerous videos and been to numerous Kenpo classes in the past, and, to me, the responses to some of the attacks are overkill...I mean, after you've broken the assailants arm, dislocated his shoulder, and shattered his jaw, why do you keep going? Or can all of these moves be seperated and used individually, so you have a repertoire of responses?
    Please keep in mind if you answer this post that I am not attempting to provoke anyone, I am merely curious as to the amount of maiming that is included in some of the Kenpo curriculum...
    I have a soft spot in my heart for Kenpo, and I have always been curious about this subject...All replies(except derogatory ones) are welcome...


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    Default Re: MT: Let me ask this

    The way I like to think of this is that the initial counter strike is what is supposed to disable your aggressor, and if landed properly should be enough for you to duck out of that situation. but as everyone knows, things never go down perfectly on the street so the following strikes are sort of 'plan B' to follow up if your first attempt ends up unsuccessful. The techniques are designed to never leave you without an option to respond to your attacker's option. So pretty much start you off with a decent amount of ammunition that will hopefully outlast your attacker's. So I wouldn't exactly look at it as overkill but a full plate of options, and remember you can chose to stop the technique at any stage.
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    Default Re: MT: Let me ask this

    Quote Originally Posted by "KenpoDave" on MT
    Often, the technique continues to allow you to practice what movements are available from that position. Often, a technique that teaches a break can be applied as a lock, which may necessitate a continuation of movment.

    The techniques are teaching tools, not written in stone.
    While all responses here and on MT were pretty good, I think this one is the real reason. The techniques are a vehicle to teach us to move correctly under fire. And, like kata, there is more than one application to each move. They are not a "things to do if he ___" list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EndlessRising View Post
    The way I like to think of this is that the initial counter strike is what is supposed to disable your aggressor, and if landed properly should be enough for you to duck out of that situation. but as everyone knows, things never go down perfectly on the street so the following strikes are sort of 'plan B' to follow up if your first attempt ends up unsuccessful. The techniques are designed to never leave you without an option to respond to your attacker's option. So pretty much start you off with a decent amount of ammunition that will hopefully outlast your attacker's. So I wouldn't exactly look at it as overkill but a full plate of options, and remember you can chose to stop the technique at any stage.
    Well put! As one of my instructors says "never pass up a target of opportunity"

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    By JasonASmith - Wed, 04 Oct 2006 02:40:49 GMT

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    Or can all of these moves be seperated and used individually, so you have a repertoire of responses?

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    Default Re: MT: Let me ask this

    All excellent replies thus far IMHO. So, let me add my 0.02

    You can't ever really be 100% sure of what it will take to rid yourself of an attacker. What you definately DON'T want to do is hesitate. Kenpo trains you to be fluid and continuous in your responses. A properly trained Kenpoist will do what is necessary to survive a confrontation...and no more, but we prefer to have our "weapons at the ready" if needed. That's why we practice the way we do. We like to think of it as being OVERSKILL, not OVERKILL.
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    Default Re: MT: Let me ask this

    Its fun.
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    Default Re: MT: Let me ask this

    if i can hit someone 3 or 4 times instead of just once......woohoo
    if i can win without hitting them at all........even better

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